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Tabernack en Chasteaux
Phoibe Enterprises
#21 - 2011-12-22 05:12:17 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:

It's an old Chinese philosophical story, so you'll find tons of sources and variations if you google. The original way I heard it the farmer's line was "Maybe" and here's a link to that version i just found.


I bookmarked that site because it is awesome. Thanks!
Scrindle Kavees
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2011-12-22 13:36:39 UTC
1. Your head is venting smoke

2. Good book, recommended
Luh Windan
green fish hat bang bang
#23 - 2011-12-22 14:24:06 UTC
Scrindle Kavees wrote:
1. Your head is venting smoke


These forums will do that to a man....
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#24 - 2011-12-24 01:02:48 UTC
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
Hope it's a good read I just ordered it :)

You may enjoy Critical Mass: How on thing leads to another by Philip Ball, very interesting discussions about complex systems and how they exhibit similar behavior at certain complexities.

I can't help myself but comment on randomness as it's something I study. Hardware RNC devices are normally 2 or more quartz clocks whose values are used in an algorithm to calculate a value. I'm thinking they would be using the standard system clock approach here though.

The interesting point is that if we live in a completely finite universe, with no external influences, determinism states that nothing is random as the cause of any event can be predicted by measuring the system before the event and extrapolating the data using the rules applied to the system.

Came expecting rage thread and free tears.

Discover discussion on quantum indeterminacy, the pros and cons of RNG vs. pRNG and the nature of Laplace's demon.

Pleasantly surprised.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Cherry Nobyl
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2011-12-25 04:24:35 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
...........

Discover discussion on quantum indeterminacy, the pros and cons of RNG vs. pRNG and the nature of Laplace's demon.

Pleasantly surprised.....



"I had to see it. There wasn't much left. But when I was there it was strange. I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected. It's like I could see the whole thing, one long chain of events that stretched all the way back before Larkhill. I felt like I could see everything that happened, and everything that is going to happen. It was like a perfect pattern, laid out in front of me. And I realised we're all part of it, and all trapped by it." finch - v


welcome to fractal node zulu, please have your deterrminism ready for inspection.

Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#26 - 2011-12-26 19:01:07 UTC
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:


The interesting point is that if we live in a completely finite universe, with no external influences, determinism states that nothing is random as the cause of any event can be predicted by measuring the system before the event and extrapolating the data using the rules applied to the system.


Who can measure the system from inside the system?
Dr Nefarius
Syndicate Society
#27 - 2011-12-26 19:06:54 UTC
Tasko Pal wrote:
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:


The interesting point is that if we live in a completely finite universe, with no external influences, determinism states that nothing is random as the cause of any event can be predicted by measuring the system before the event and extrapolating the data using the rules applied to the system.


Who can measure the system from inside the system?


A wizard. Like Gandalf or god.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#28 - 2011-12-26 21:18:12 UTC
Tasko Pal wrote:
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:


The interesting point is that if we live in a completely finite universe, with no external influences, determinism states that nothing is random as the cause of any event can be predicted by measuring the system before the event and extrapolating the data using the rules applied to the system.


Who can measure the system from inside the system?

Also, in this respect, determinism is wrong :)

Some events do not require a cause. E.g. radioactive decay, vacuum energy fluctuations etc. They're are statistically predictable, but still not deterministic in nature.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2011-12-26 21:40:55 UTC
Yup. That's the problem with having a big old pattern recognition machine stapled on top of your neck: when fed with uninterpretable data, it tends to invent its own reality.
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