EVE General Discussion

So, I was in low sec, alone, in a procurer.

I was tanked for Sansha rats, with the needed mids and drones, defeated a True Sansha, and actually stood well up to a Sansha Lord. I could take hits for 15 min, but the poor drones could not beat its armor repair.

I was not prepared for real pirates.

They were:

Redeemer, Ogres II - he was the damage dealer.
Pilgrim, Hamerhead II - she was ewar.

They came in cloaked, I saw them appear, I was aligned, hit warp immediately. The Pilgrim locked me down instantly with what seemed like 3-4 disruptors and scramblers. I knew even at full thrust and drones out, I was not going to make it.

Looking at their ships and my skills, I think I was done for regardless, but I'm asking for some general advice. Had I put 2 warp stabilizers in my low, would it have mattered?

[Procurer, Procurer]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Drone Damage Amplifier I

Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Medium Shield Extender I

Strip Miner I

Hobgoblin I x4
Acolyte I x4
Salvage Drone I x2

At this point you're pretty safe.

But as soon as you saw those two pilots enter local you should have got yourself to safety.

Fit is kinda secondary, as Mario said. Not much you can do in a barge against determined hostiles unless you get lucky.

I keep people with alts and scouts sitting around the kitchen to call in just for such exigencies. I know, it's sort of expensive paying them for not doing much all day, but when that thing suddenly happens, I'm never without a friend with an alt or a scout. Sage advice...alts and scouts and stuff.

... and a Nereus "hauler".

This is good advice.

I occasionally use a Prospect for the larger ore bay and ability to cloak rather than warp away, which cuts down on time to get back into position after neutrals/hostiles leave system.

The biggest issue is then managing rats, which just takes a few minutes to go find a belt without rats.

Check out Bovril Borers, a BRAVE corporation who mines in Null sec. They don't run for fights, they fight back. How to join Bovril

Sounds u expereinced eve at its best. Its low sec and u werent exspecting, thats what went wrong

upgrade to T2 tank modules.... they help alot although i doubt they would have saved you...

The first point; you need to get into a good corporation with players who can give you step by step advice on your path up the steep learning cliff. There are reams of information regarding even a small aspect of the game, and far too much to be easily conveyed in a forum post.

To answer you question directly, orbit will slow your warp out speed; either align to a celestial which is the fastest way, or just set your ships speed at 0 which is the next best option. With a venture or prospect you won't need to worry so much, and to complicate matters with those ships you should actually orbit instead of align in order to help speed tank the rats damage.

The higgs rig will increase your mass so that is no use for aligning, the correct rig is low friction nozzle joint, although it is generally not worth fitting them on a mining ship, although in some edge cases they may work.

If you saw the pilgrim over 4 times then either the pilot was probably not as skilled as expected, or not interested in killing you initially. A good recon pilot shouldn't be seen at all right up until the moment they de cloak right next to you. It is good your using dscan, you should keep that up, and set it to maximum range so you are covering the gates so you can see who is entering the system. Intel gathering is key to staying safe in hostile space.



Security isn't always a good indication of how hostile the pilot is, some of the most dangerous pilots are neutral alts and so not in a corp, and they may have a positive security status from killing rats in null sec.

As you can see the answers are not straight forward which is why you need a decent corporation.

Orbit for AI when you are sitting around fighting them.
If you have reds that harass you a lot, then one trick is to have have a few book marks.
- instant dock
- instant undock
and
- belt book mark with two off grid warp off points - use a fast frigate and draw a line then slow boat at 76% between them.

Again, with the group thing. Get a POS and an Orca you can boost target range on lasers and not keep changing direction so often.
As the reds land, you can warp off grid then warp and instant dock on the station.

When a regular hunter comes along; I have sometimes waited in a belt, aligned, so they have that moment of "Oh yes!" then I crash it down and warp to a safe place, like a POS or a tactical off a POS, station, etc. Depends on D-Scan and intel.