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How to value on BPCs to sell with contracts?

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Mal-Ak Lah
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-04-25 13:16:32 UTC
So I got some repair paste bpc with a fully leveled te and me.
I was thinking of selling these in contracts.
Is this profitable? How do I know what price to sell them for? IS there a third party program?
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#2 - 2015-04-25 14:40:23 UTC
Pricing BPCs for sale is an art, and an annoying one at that. Except for expensive BPCs that drop from faction spawns, I've found that it's usually easier to just make the item and sell that.

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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#3 - 2015-04-26 08:26:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Just look at contracts for the relevant BPC and follow roughly the price for the location where you are selling at. Look at the prices at Jita for the BPC as well so you aren't too much more expensive than there. You will be able to charge more than Jita price though as you are saving them time and trouble.

In terms of is there profit on selling BPCs the answer is yes depending on the type of BPC as the copying charge is relatively small even at NPC stations. It may be though that using your BPO to make a product will result in more profit. It's all about maths & spreadsheets and how seriously you want to do it.

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Mal-Ak Lah
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-04-26 14:42:47 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Pricing BPCs for sale is an art, and an annoying one at that. Except for expensive BPCs that drop from faction spawns, I've found that it's usually easier to just make the item and sell that.


Is there ANY kind off profit on selling a BPC with TE and ME at top?
Do they even get more valuable?
Mal-Ak Lah
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-04-26 14:43:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mal-Ak Lah
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:
Just look at contracts for the relevant BPC and follow roughly the price for the location where you are selling at. Look at the prices at Jita for the BPC as well so you aren't too much more expensive than there. You will be able to charge more than Jita price though as you are saving them time and trouble.

In terms of is there profit on selling BPCs the answer is yes depending on the type of BPC as the copying charge is relatively small even at NPC stations. It may be though that using your BPO to make a product will result in more profit. It's all about maths & spreadsheets and how seriously you want to do it.


I found out that people land at like 80 mil, you but it for 50 and work on it and add a 30 mil so it makes sense.

Ive seen some other being able to sell them for that price but people wont buy mine? Thats what I dont get.

How can I make people buy them?
Elvandari
Valheru industries
#6 - 2015-04-27 06:04:46 UTC
Mal-Ak Lah wrote:
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:
Just look at contracts for the relevant BPC and follow roughly the price for the location where you are selling at. Look at the prices at Jita for the BPC as well so you aren't too much more expensive than there. You will be able to charge more than Jita price though as you are saving them time and trouble.

In terms of is there profit on selling BPCs the answer is yes depending on the type of BPC as the copying charge is relatively small even at NPC stations. It may be though that using your BPO to make a product will result in more profit. It's all about maths & spreadsheets and how seriously you want to do it.


I found out that people land at like 80 mil, you but it for 50 and work on it and add a 30 mil so it makes sense.

Ive seen some other being able to sell them for that price but people wont buy mine? Thats what I dont get.

How can I make people buy them?



that 80M is for BPO as you have stated in your first post that you are selling BPC the price will be one hell lower, probably few hunderd thousand ISK
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-04-27 09:45:20 UTC
Mal-Ak Lah wrote:
So I got some repair paste bpc with a fully leveled te and me.


The two contracts you have in game are for BPOs, not BPCs. Or are you talking about contracts on other characters or ones that you've taken down?
Mal-Ak Lah
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-04-28 12:16:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mal-Ak Lah
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Mal-Ak Lah wrote:
So I got some repair paste bpc with a fully leveled te and me.


The two contracts you have in game are for BPOs, not BPCs. Or are you talking about contracts on other characters or ones that you've taken down?


Sorry, mixed bpo with bpc..
I got BPOs, im selling them

I cant seem to get them to sell while others are selling the exact same thing for the exact same price
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#9 - 2015-04-29 03:51:46 UTC
figure out what the manufacturer will profit from that bpc. charge a figure that still leaves them a sizeable profit.

i.e. charging more than they can make if they build, it wont sell. dont be dumb
Mal-Ak Lah
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-04-29 10:19:50 UTC
Adriana Nolen wrote:
figure out what the manufacturer will profit from that bpc. charge a figure that still leaves them a sizeable profit.

i.e. charging more than they can make if they build, it wont sell. dont be dumb


I get that but I think people would rather copy it and then produce more right? So it is reasonable for me to take close to the production price if not the same? Because in the end, everything gotten from the copies is a profit?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-04-29 12:12:50 UTC
Mal-Ak Lah wrote:
So it is reasonable for me to take close to the production price if not the same? Because in the end, everything gotten from the copies is a profit?


Err, no.
Why would someone buy a BPC if they can't make a profit from it? If you're selling BPCs (and that's what your original question was, regardless of what you're actually selling), you need to ensure that a producer can buy your BPC, buy mats from the market and when they sell the finished item they make a profit. Otherwise no one's going to buy the BPC.
Mal-Ak Lah
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-04-29 15:43:32 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Mal-Ak Lah wrote:
So it is reasonable for me to take close to the production price if not the same? Because in the end, everything gotten from the copies is a profit?


Err, no.
Why would someone buy a BPC if they can't make a profit from it? If you're selling BPCs (and that's what your original question was, regardless of what you're actually selling), you need to ensure that a producer can buy your BPC, buy mats from the market and when they sell the finished item they make a profit. Otherwise no one's going to buy the BPC.


once more, I mean BPOs not BPCs
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-04-29 19:06:42 UTC
BPOs are priced completely differently and all advice you've got in this thread is for BPCs, because that's what you asked for. If you want to ask about pricing BPOs, I would suggest starting a new thread as anyone else replying here is likely to read the title and OP and answer based on those.