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Apocalyptic twist from CCP?

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2015-04-24 22:49:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
Fight for ftreedom! People would find a wayz to brake the walls and limits. Portable acceleration gates & jump portal generators etc etc.

So how about femove warp drives? That reminds me a story of early eve when one good man was complaining that it took him 3,5 hours to fly from station to jg running mwd only.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#22 - 2015-04-24 23:35:45 UTC
I'm here all naive like this drifter nonsense will be some secret new gameplay mechanic like FW\Incursions\WH etc with something interesting to do in it.

Variety.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#23 - 2015-04-24 23:47:39 UTC
With gates disappearing in Jove space perhaps that opens up (or will explain) the possibility to rearrange empire space. Each faction on its own high sec island surrounded by low sec borders, making localised markets, transporting and location actually matter.

One can dream.
Gardav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-04-25 00:01:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Gardav
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
When looking at the "News" from "Scope" and the Activity around New eden, CCP is planning some fun that many wont like. Someone got some balls and finally is in the progress doing, hopefully, something radical that would shake Things up abit.

Its about time, cuz EVE has been dull fpr a long time now.


KEEP IT UP CCP!! BRING THE CARNAGE!! :D


I concur.... to me it does seem like everything we knew in New Eden is about to change, or big parts of it... and yes some of us aren't going to like it. I'm making preparations that's for sure, but truth is my preparations may not be enough.

I think we will still have at least some of the Gates online, maybe most, but some things we take for granted I think definitely will be history.

Bound to blow up sooner or later to be honest.
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#25 - 2015-04-25 00:02:17 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
...Please let me see all gates in rest of New Eden go offline too, isolating every system XD Make travle only available by cyno... That would make Things more interesting... a Complete lockdown :D


Oh yes, locking down Trossere, Uitra, Hulm, etc would make for a brilliant NPE. Roll
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-04-25 00:22:34 UTC
Oh dear now you've done it..

You DO realize the last roumers came true right? CCP is basing these off our theories. Now the scope broadcast went down on the latest video. YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL!

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#27 - 2015-04-25 00:24:36 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
With the gates dissapering in Jove Space and jove Tech popping up everywhere in New Eden.... i just hope CCP has planned some big apocalyptic events.... Please let me see all gates in rest of New Eden go offline too, isolating every system XD Make travle only available by cyno... That would make Things more interesting... a Complete lockdown :D


Oh glorious CCP, let me see you for once do something really interesting and fun. :D



*crossing feet, fingers, arms and my neighbors in hope for a apocalyptic party throughout the Galaxy*




I would hope, as according to my sig, to see the highsec-lowsec-nullsec lines get blurred by the use of "deep space" or "the space between".

That is, for say a highsec system Concord only "cares" so far out so that going to outer planets or even more riskier (and rewarding) belts and exploration sites is basically going to lowsec but in the same system. Out even further, past the "lowsec belt" it's deep space and nullsec - like complete with the ability to use lowsec-only goodies. I would even add planetoids, not on the map, that can be anchored to and mined. I would bring back the deep space probes as they would be needed.

(unfortunately the game has gone another way as deep bookmarks were removed long ago)

The dedicated systems and constellations to given security status has created too much isolation of opportunity and play style. Every system should have or potentially have at varying degrees some kind of space police but only within the perspective of a state guarding commerce for its own ends, and beyond that, beyond a certain distance from the star or from the temperate planets, lawlessness, and beyond that, frontier.

I won't hold my breath.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Hengle Teron
Rorquals Anonymous
Two Maidens One Chalice
#28 - 2015-04-25 00:27:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Hengle Teron
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Try thinking of other people too.
Locking players inside a cage isn't exactly good gameplay.

That's just like GCC ... it makes no sense whatsoever.



Yes it could be good gameplay, they have to use the ships and Equipment thats available in the system and what the own themselves... Instead of buying in tradehubs, People need to build or get built what they need in their system.... if they have jumpclone, they could jump to a more equipped system if needed.

In Null, it would be bad for the pvp guys, and a freaking goldrush for miners, pve and producers.

People will need to adapt to the situsation... ofcourse their will be alot of complaining... from the usually choir of complainers :D

and how would you build stuff, without the blueprint available in your system ?

Forgive me Father, for I have taken OP for real for a sec.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#29 - 2015-04-25 06:06:39 UTC
Sure. Their plan is epic; skins. Whoopty-doo. Roll

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Dana Goodeye
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2015-04-25 09:47:42 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
With the gates dissapering in Jove Space and jove Tech popping up everywhere in New Eden.... i just hope CCP has planned some big apocalyptic events.... Please let me see all gates in rest of New Eden go offline too, isolating every system XD Make travle only available by cyno... That would make Things more interesting... a Complete lockdown :D


Oh glorious CCP, let me see you for once do something really interesting and fun. :D



*crossing feet, fingers, arms and my neighbors in hope for a apocalyptic party throughout the Galaxy*

oh my god! with a little adjusting, this idea coulhd be a lot of fun! im a hiseccer, hopping into losec and sometimes into null to shoot around. and i live in hek. buuut... if i would see that, hek droping sec stat to 0.1, jumpgates are out of order if you want to leave the system, and works only if you want to get in, with a little warning window..... yes, a lot of ppl would complain. but its just one day, and it can be a lot of fuuuuuun =D and it could happen with all the trade hubs =P ooh eve gods, my pray goes to you all xD can i shoot ccp ppl if this isnt gonma happen? lets say in 2 weeks. please? *.*
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#31 - 2015-04-25 13:36:15 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Try thinking of other people too.
Locking players inside a cage isn't exactly good gameplay.

That's just like GCC ... it makes no sense whatsoever.



Yes it could be good gameplay, they have to use the ships and Equipment thats available in the system and what the own themselves... Instead of buying in tradehubs, People need to build or get built what they need in their system.... if they have jumpclone, they could jump to a more equipped system if needed.

In Null, it would be bad for the pvp guys, and a freaking goldrush for miners, pve and producers.

People will need to adapt to the situsation... ofcourse their will be alot of complaining... from the usually choir of complainers :D

and how would you build stuff, without the blueprint available in your system ?

Forgive me Father, for I have taken OP for real for a sec.



If you dont have bp and the others in that system, neither got any bp's.... ure screwed... unless you can adapt to use salvaged equipment and be much more careful with the ships you got available.... if you cant adapt, ure screwed unless you got a JC and can settle in a another system.

The ingenuety of humans has no limit when it comes to adapt.



On the otherhand.... there is one thing that could support such apocalyptic plan from CCP.... they have some plans with humanbuilt gates 😉
Baljos Arnjak
Dark Praetorian Order
#32 - 2015-04-25 14:43:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Baljos Arnjak
See, here's what I think is going to happen:

Drifters don't like DED/Concord doing autopsies on their people, so they made a show of force at the station in Yulai and jammed our news feeds for a while. Concord doesn't lay off so they jam out ALL communications at the Concord station causing local to drop cluster wide. Concord increases power but not enough to provide communications to everyone they once did and the capsuleer empires in Nullsec will have to make due with delayed local or install communications repeaters in their space (new structures).

So now, Concord gets really pissed and attacks the Drifters with an armada thought to be able to wipe them out (a little hubris goes a long way). They fail to realize that the Drifters are far more powerful than they thought and even though they defeat them in this round, the Drifters escalate again by unleashing the weapon they used on Caroline's Star on the star in Yulai. This is the weapon that destroyed gate travel in 3 regions and will have similar effects here.

It is my belief that the weapon used to destroy the star sends a feedback pulse through all connected gates, shutting them down in a cascading fashion. This pulse propagates until there are no more connected gates. So, unfortunately, the weapon is much more devastating here because there are gate links everywhere in empire and we are not isolated like the Jove were.

So, now that local is permanently diminished, Concord headquarters destroyed, and most of the gate system offline, Concord is overwhelmed in the chaos and local authorities from the empires have to step in. At the same time, being controlled by the Drifters, Sleepers invade empire from numerous wormholes and begin to mop up Concord in the now isolated systems. They take heavy losses and never ultimately defeat the Concord forces, but Concord is now reduced to faction status and no longer perform the functions they once did.

The Aftermath:

With the gate system being down, the technicians living and working on them are scrambling to bring them back online with the help of the capsuleers trapped in system. The capsuleers provide raw materials from asteroids and planetary resources and provide protection from pirate and/or sleeper forces. The system is slowly re-established over the course of about a week. Unfortunately, since gate connections are random and given the state of crisis, any connection will do, and most gates don't lead to exactly where they did before, some even end up connecting to previously unknown systems. Meanwhile, capsuleers get around via wormholes. It's terribly random and dangerous, but better than nothing.

With Concorde essentially destroyed, and with it system security status, the empires must control their space without them. Not being as infallible as Concorde, empire system security status is effectively cut in half unless the capsuleers of that system help out in its defense by coordinating with agents of the owning empire. Thus rises the time of dynamic sec status for empire systems aka Occupancy Empire. Those systems that have small populations will go down to their minimum and those with healthy populations will be able to raise their sec status to relatively high levels.

Having dealt with their masters' enemies, the Sleeper drones retreat back to w-space to deal with their capsuleer infestation. The Drifters go back to disassembling Jove tech for a time then disappear back to their own space that isn't on the map (yet).

Seeing the developing power vacuum, Sansha steps up his attacks in both frequency and power. With capsuleers busy helping get the gate system back online, he takes large swaths of territory. Eventually this territory becomes the New Sansha Nation.

Now free of the last vestiges of Concord control, the capsuleer empires in former Nullsec are now free to field any and all technology they can develop. This includes star gates and other structures of various designs. Eventually, they will connect those gates to the new space mentioned before. This space is where the Drifters call home and is both more terrible and more beautiful than anything known before.

And I'm spent!
Sorry.... imagigasm......
Dana Goodeye
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2015-04-25 15:19:45 UTC
baljos, you should work for the ccp as local and world wide story writer =D i would like to see if the capsuleers could work together in a temporarely losec system without blowing up eachother =)
Baljos Arnjak
Dark Praetorian Order
#34 - 2015-04-25 16:10:51 UTC
Heh, Icelandic weather would be a step up for me, so I wouldn't mind that.

And I'd like to see that too, lots of glorious stories good and bad could come about from a true apocalypse =)
Mario Putzo
#35 - 2015-04-25 17:41:35 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
With the gates dissapering in Jove Space and jove Tech popping up everywhere in New Eden.... i just hope CCP has planned some big apocalyptic events.... Please let me see all gates in rest of New Eden go offline too, isolating every system XD Make travle only available by cyno... That would make Things more interesting... a Complete lockdown :D


Oh glorious CCP, let me see you for once do something really interesting and fun. :D



*crossing feet, fingers, arms and my neighbors in hope for a apocalyptic party throughout the Galaxy*

How would cynos get from system to system to be lit?


Wormholes...
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#36 - 2015-04-25 19:04:57 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
With the gates dissapering in Jove Space and jove Tech popping up everywhere in New Eden.... i just hope CCP has planned some big apocalyptic events.... Please let me see all gates in rest of New Eden go offline too, isolating every system XD Make travle only available by cyno... That would make Things more interesting... a Complete lockdown :D


Oh glorious CCP, let me see you for once do something really interesting and fun. :D



*crossing feet, fingers, arms and my neighbors in hope for a apocalyptic party throughout the Galaxy*

How would cynos get from system to system to be lit?


Wormholes...



Crap... that will somewhat kill the hisec isolation :D
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#37 - 2015-04-25 22:55:26 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
Sure. Their plan is epic; skins. Whoopty-doo. Roll



i will say YAY to New skins, IF they choose to make some good old fashion havoc and Complete Mayhem all over New eden.... make every player feel like a nun in a tent in a military base.

But i do share Your entusiastic "Whoopty-doo".... so far CCP's "New and Glorious" additions has been as exciting as watching the clock second by second for 24hrs
Whittorical Quandary
Amarrian Infinity
#38 - 2015-04-26 03:05:36 UTC
Maybe that's what happened to Thera...

It was like the Jita of Jove space, then they got locked down and everyone and their bots got stuck in system and couldn't leave, complete anarchy till they self destructed it after they could no longer stand the depravity that is trade chat...

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you never know if they are genuine."

— Abraham Lincoln
Kyshonuba
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#39 - 2015-04-26 07:39:19 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
With gates disappearing in Jove space perhaps that opens up (or will explain) the possibility to rearrange empire space. Each faction on its own high sec island surrounded by low sec borders, making localised markets, transporting and location actually matter.

One can dream.


Could be even more dramatic.

Maybe drifters baddies are going to invade high sec NPC stations. ( They need human bodies for drifter production)
After a gigantic space genocide .... surprise ..... Players will have to set up the "new high sec stations" by themselves.

...almost forgot : No worry guys , your assets will be safe Cool
Nishachara
Stillwater Corporation
#40 - 2015-04-26 10:50:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Nishachara
Baljos Arnjak wrote:
See, here's what I think is going to happen:

Drifters don't like DED/Concord doing autopsies on their people, so they made a show of force at the station in Yulai and jammed our news feeds for a while. Concord doesn't lay off so they jam out ALL communications at the Concord station causing local to drop cluster wide. Concord increases power but not enough to provide communications to everyone they once did and the capsuleer empires in Nullsec will have to make due with delayed local or install communications repeaters in their space (new structures).

So now, Concord gets really pissed and attacks the Drifters with an armada thought to be able to wipe them out (a little hubris goes a long way). They fail to realize that the Drifters are far more powerful than they thought and even though they defeat them in this round, the Drifters escalate again by unleashing the weapon they used on Caroline's Star on the star in Yulai. This is the weapon that destroyed gate travel in 3 regions and will have similar effects here.

It is my belief that the weapon used to destroy the star sends a feedback pulse through all connected gates, shutting them down in a cascading fashion. This pulse propagates until there are no more connected gates. So, unfortunately, the weapon is much more devastating here because there are gate links everywhere in empire and we are not isolated like the Jove were.

So, now that local is permanently diminished, Concord headquarters destroyed, and most of the gate system offline, Concord is overwhelmed in the chaos and local authorities from the empires have to step in. At the same time, being controlled by the Drifters, Sleepers invade empire from numerous wormholes and begin to mop up Concord in the now isolated systems. They take heavy losses and never ultimately defeat the Concord forces, but Concord is now reduced to faction status and no longer perform the functions they once did.
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Just one question...

Who will lead a rag tag fleet of one machariel and a bunch of industrial and mining ships towards the mystical earth ?


But this type of event would be cool, it couldeven give the possibility of new specific missions and stuff..
defend the gate until *insert techno babble* is online, get one million units of trit to the gate so they can repiar *insert techno babble*... rewards could be concord LP for pilots involved and it could be on the basis of "first gets reward" ..pvp players also coulddisrupt those activites maybe even in the service of some opposing force.. or ( in low ..null ) they could repiar the gate and own it as a pos or a station ( with taxing the gate use )...
Newer players could becatered that in new player systems those sort of tasks are easier and require less...etc etc..
All in all it could be a 6 month long event until new eden gets back upon its feet and it could be fun ^^
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