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[NEWS] Breaking News - Drifter Autopsy Press Conference Interrupted!

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Neia Parmala
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#41 - 2015-04-25 01:19:13 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
[quote=Wendrika Hydreiga]

If things were as simple as that we would have had some more detailed answers. However there are two major problems:

The content of Carbon-14 in an organism depends on the level of Carbon-14 in the surrounding air which depends on the Carbon-14 of the environment. There can be a huge difference between different planets and a smaller difference between station environment but as long as we don't know what environment the body has originally been exposed to we cannot get acuate results on this method.

The low radiation of the drifter body does also interfere with our readings to make it even more inaccuate.

Also, to make things harder, even if they did know what environments he had been in, I doubt they would have been able to determine much more than when he died, as his body would have constantly been taking in more C14 over time up til the point he died.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#42 - 2015-04-25 01:50:03 UTC
And, what's more, there's the additional air taken in after reanimation.

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Wendrika Hydreiga
#43 - 2015-04-25 02:22:45 UTC
We can make quantum state atoms of helium vibrate at the same frequecy across the cosmos, but we can't determine if a dead guy is old based on his carbon?

Science has failed me...
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#44 - 2015-04-25 02:49:55 UTC
Carbon dating is entirely environment-based. Without environmental context (which is sometimes useless in the cosmopolitan environment of space flight), dating is extremely difficult. Simple as that.

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#45 - 2015-04-25 09:31:53 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
What sort of scientists throws the towel because they think a test might not give results? A good scientist would have done every possible battery of tests anyways!

The question is rather simple. Is it a Jove body or a Sleeper body?

The report state the teeth were in good condition. Now the question we should ask is, did the Drifter bite on anything during this epoch? The report also says the diggestive tract was present but glistened in some form of nanite byproduct. Did the conversion happened recently or a long time ago?

If carbon dating is out of the picture, check for organic contaminants! If that thing has been living in a Sleeper bubblewrap like the lack of immune system suggests, we can rule out a ghastly demise for the Jove Empire, which we haven't heard since ages!


Do you honestly think that we would give up? This is going to be a long project. Noone has ever worked with something like this before so we are starting from scratch on everything. We have a high amount of that that still either contradicts each other or simply doesn't make sense.

The closests answer to your question would be based on the genetic analysis:

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Furthermore, a comparative analysis between Jove tissue samples (Blood, Bone Fragment, Epidermis Sliver, Liver Bile) and what samples were obtained from the corpse provided a fairly conclusive result. While some genetic markers between the Drifter and Jove are a match, there is simply too much differentiation between the Jove and the Drifters. They are not the same
beings in any sense of the word.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#46 - 2015-04-25 09:32:42 UTC
If they can just go into Yulai like that and disrupt comms, they can disrupt anything.

I would say we are in big trouble.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#47 - 2015-04-25 09:39:30 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Seeing as the Q&A session was, uh, rather interrupted, Ms. Starsurge, associates, would you be willing to field some questions here?

For instance, does the 'unknown radiation' of the blood match any other objects we're aware of? For instance, Antikythera Elements, Tyrannos weapons, the radiation from Caroline's Star...?


This is out of my field and my knowledge about radiation is limited. However there are some strong similarities. And like the antikythera elements the source of the radiation is either continuously generating or recieving energy as the radiation itself show no signs of decay over time.

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Feu dAstres
Nox Draconum Holding Corp
#48 - 2015-04-25 11:04:56 UTC
Though we only have the one Drifter sample, so far, what were the results of the analysis of the reticulocyte age when compared with baseline human statistics?
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#49 - 2015-04-25 22:46:56 UTC
Mr. d'Astres; it seems the research team is rather swamped at the moment, and I've been instructed to direct my questions to this thread. You might wish to do the same...?

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2015-04-27 12:52:53 UTC
I thought sleepers needed a body for their cons iousness? It's entirely possible the body was underwhelming as it was simply all that was required to physically support the 'brain'. Any more may well have been unecessary
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#51 - 2015-04-27 13:22:03 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
I thought sleepers needed a body for their cons iousness? It's entirely possible the body was underwhelming as it was simply all that was required to physically support the 'brain'. Any more may well have been unecessary


It is one of our main hypothesis.

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Farlas Ibana
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2015-04-27 19:56:33 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
I thought sleepers needed a body for their cons iousness? It's entirely possible the body was underwhelming as it was simply all that was required to physically support the 'brain'. Any more may well have been unecessary


It is one of our main hypothesis.


My own Hypothesis :

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5701687#post5701687
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#53 - 2015-04-28 13:06:08 UTC
Anyone mind filling me in if this has anything to do with two Drifter battleships being sat on the Onazel gate in Lossa just now?
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#54 - 2015-04-28 13:33:38 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Anyone mind filling me in if this has anything to do with two Drifter battleships being sat on the Onazel gate in Lossa just now?


A likely explanation is that we have pushed the drifters to begin their offense sooner than expected. Or it might just have been their plan.

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Lindsey Korin
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2015-04-29 12:52:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Lindsey Korin
Might I suggest that any further press releases be handled in a erm.. more secure manner?

Putting two and two together based on information obtained regarding entosis links:

Aldrith Shutaq wrote:


23194-02-01 - Gallente have created an agency known as The Scope for the dissemination of information across Empires. Suggest that this network be monitored. Potential to extrapolate prototype for impartial communication between disparate enclaves.



The scope does not appear to a safe method of transmitting news of a sensitive nature regarding drifters. Circumstances surrounding all the drifters appearing during your news release is proof of this.

I have a question, while I understand efforts are ongoing, are we able to rule out yet if this is in fact a capsuleer clone which has been repurposed or is this something else all together?

Mizhir wrote:


A likely explanation is that we have pushed the drifters to begin their offense sooner than expected. Or it might just have been their plan.


Could this not be evidence of how far the drifters are prepared to go to acheive censorship?
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