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[NEWS] Breaking News - Drifter Autopsy Press Conference Interrupted!

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#21 - 2015-04-24 18:19:34 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I've read the report and I'm really disapponted! The Drifters are seldomly enhanced cybernetically! Even a Sansha zombie is more enhanced than this...

Still, I'd love to get a sample of Drifter blood... And bone marrow too! It is so hard to integrate nanomachines in the circulatory system and I would love to figure out how they are pulling it off!


They may have a low amount of cybernetics compared to other entities, but the key factor is that their cybernetics have still made a large change to the drifter physiology.

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Kalo Askold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-04-24 18:26:56 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I've read the report and I'm really disapponted! The Drifters are seldomly enhanced cybernetically! Even a Sansha zombie is more enhanced than this...

Still, I'd love to get a sample of Drifter blood... And bone marrow too! It is so hard to integrate nanomachines in the circulatory system and I would love to figure out how they are pulling it off!


Quality over quantity.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2015-04-24 18:27:26 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I've read the report and I'm really disapponted! The Drifters are seldomly enhanced cybernetically! Even a Sansha zombie is more enhanced than this...

Still, I'd love to get a sample of Drifter blood... And bone marrow too! It is so hard to integrate nanomachines in the circulatory system and I would love to figure out how they are pulling it off!

Did you see what's been done with the brain, though? It's so modified they can't even be sure which bit is supposed to do what.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#24 - 2015-04-24 18:34:31 UTC
Kalo Askold wrote:
Quality over quantity.


I wouldn't go so far to say this is superior quality. An auxiliary heart pump working along with an atrophiated heart? A synthetic pancreas? Their vessels might be advanced, but their bodies look almost like an afterthought.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2015-04-24 18:43:42 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Kalo Askold wrote:
Quality over quantity.


I wouldn't go so far to say this is superior quality. An auxiliary heart pump working along with an atrophiated heart? A synthetic pancreas? Their vessels might be advanced, but their bodies look almost like an afterthought.

Well ... these are the Drifter version of us, it seems like.

If you want to see physically impressive, perhaps wait until they field an equivalent to the clone soldier?
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#26 - 2015-04-24 18:45:03 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Kalo Askold wrote:
Quality over quantity.


I wouldn't go so far to say this is superior quality. An auxiliary heart pump working along with an atrophiated heart? A synthetic pancreas? Their vessels might be advanced, but their bodies look almost like an afterthought.


It is likely that their understanding of biology isn't a advanced as ours. But they in return has managed to make some powerful cybernetics to match their needs. The purpose is not to turn them into super humans. The exo suit handles that. The purpose is most likely to sustain a body to be able to house a consciousness.

Whatever they try to achieve with it. It is clear that they have been successful and what we are seeing is just the tip of the iceberg.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#27 - 2015-04-24 18:46:48 UTC
And that's the important thing, Hydreiga. The body's augmentation appears to be primarily for ensuring that its user can operate the vessel, and only so much more as is needed to sustain them.

I do wonder at the degree of neural augmentation. With that degree, and with the neural degeneration-- how much of the original occupant is in that skull? Are these bodies essentially reconstructed biomass being used much as clone mercenaries use implants to shunt into clones? Or Capsuleers' consciousnesses are burnt onto blank clones?

I can only assume the lack of speech capability makes it likely they're communicating via other protocols.

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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#28 - 2015-04-24 18:54:46 UTC
It is possible the drifter pilots are little more than wetware. No actual organic mind or free will, just neural tissue formatted to run AI software.
Of course the other question is if they are blanks or a former person
Wendrika Hydreiga
#29 - 2015-04-24 18:58:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Wendrika Hydreiga
I was half expecting the Drifters to be 100% mechanical from the neck down! Their peak technology used to produce pinnacle level bodies so they could exhert their dominance on the physical world! What do we have? Capsuleer mock ups!

The difference in spinal socket interface implies they are either running on outdated or disinvested technology. This is not what you would expect from warmongers bent on total domination!

It's almost like they want to get something fast, then go back to what they were doing. Or they are trying to replicate our technology and are stealing it all, replicating it bit by bit with the data they are colecting with their scaning! But this is more evil science than evil warmongering... Wierd.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#30 - 2015-04-24 19:06:42 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I was half expecting the Drifters to be 100% mechanical from the neck down! Their peak technology used to produce pinnacle level bodies so they could exhert their dominance on the physical world! What do we have? Capsuleer mock ups!

The difference in spinal socket interface implies they are either running on outdated or disinvested technology. This is not what you would expect from warmongers bent on total domination!

It's almost like they want to get something fast, then go back to what they were doing. Or they are trying to replicate our techno,ogy and are stealing bit by bit with the data they are colecting!


If they were fully mechanical aside from their head, why would they even bother with a body then? Their technology may not be optimal in our optics but they have still managed to develope powerful battleships to utilize it. This may as well be the first wave of something greater and unless we figure out how to defeat them there wouldn't be many places where rabbits can hide.

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#31 - 2015-04-24 19:10:14 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I was half expecting the Drifters to be 100% mechanical from the neck down! Their peak technology used to produce pinnacle level bodies so they could exhert their dominance on the physical world! What do we have? Capsuleer mock ups!

The difference in spinal socket interface implies they are either running on outdated or disinvested technology. This is not what you would expect from warmongers bent on total domination!

It's almost like they want to get something fast, then go back to what they were doing. Or they are trying to replicate our technology and are stealing it all, replicating it bit by bit with the data they are colecting with their scaning! But this more evil science than evil warmongering... Wierd.

I was sort of half-expecting the same, but ... I think you may be misunderstand what the difference in the spinal sockets implies.

Maybe it's a downgrade, but ... does that really seem likely? Their ports have a different configuration, but it also sounds as though they have additional hardware supporting the interface: the exosuit. It seems more likely to me that they're just using a different design, and we shouldn't assume that their system is in any way inferior.

What interests me particularly is how focused the design is. Anything peripheral to piloting (eating food, or fine motor control in extremities, for example) is also peripheral to the design, though they've also been designed to stand free of their ships. Just ... maybe not to do much with them while out-of-pod (or whatever).

Though it does sound as though their suit actuators might make up for some of the nerve endings they didn't bother with.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#32 - 2015-04-24 19:22:31 UTC
Question, did any of the people doing the autopsy ran a carbon dating on the Drifter body and determine their age?

This would be very relevant! Imagine if this Drifter body was made from a repurposed Jovian! Or if it is actually a Sleeper body ductaped to be functional! That would mean that we are still going to see more enhanced Drifter bodies that actually are exciting and powerful! Made from our capsuleer corpses!

...

I'm sorry if I'm letting my imagination running wild here. This is all so exciting!
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#33 - 2015-04-24 21:45:14 UTC
Utari Onzo wrote:
Kalo Askold wrote:
Utari Onzo wrote:
At this point I think we can now safely add Drifters with Sansha and Blooders to the 'Need to be Purged with impunity' list


.......I try to help you people and you talk about purging. Thank you, I guess I'm being noticed...I have that going for me I guess.

Help? How do you help? By siding with an organisation that bleeds people to death in the name of this false Red God? Because we all need more of that now don't we?


Kalo is not actually a Blood Raider. DED agents would be murdered by the likes of Asias Urazmie, Draclira Merlonne, Omir Sarikusa, or any other actual Blood Raider. I should know, I've murdered several DED pilots myself when I worked for the Covenant.

You can all feel safe with Kalo, the DED agent has shown her colors.
Kalo Askold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2015-04-24 22:38:15 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Utari Onzo wrote:
Kalo Askold wrote:
Utari Onzo wrote:
At this point I think we can now safely add Drifters with Sansha and Blooders to the 'Need to be Purged with impunity' list


.......I try to help you people and you talk about purging. Thank you, I guess I'm being noticed...I have that going for me I guess.

Help? How do you help? By siding with an organisation that bleeds people to death in the name of this false Red God? Because we all need more of that now don't we?


Kalo is not actually a Blood Raider. DED agents would be murdered by the likes of Asias Urazmie, Draclira Merlonne, Omir Sarikusa, or any other actual Blood Raider. I should know, I've murdered several DED pilots myself when I worked for the Covenant.

You can all feel safe with Kalo, the DED agent has shown her colors.


I'll be selling t-shirts for you to display my colors later Funk, if you wish.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2015-04-24 23:28:27 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Question, did any of the people doing the autopsy ran a carbon dating on the Drifter body and determine their age?



I'm going to guess that you are either going to find an older Jove or a recently killed capsuleer.


"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Wendrika Hydreiga
#36 - 2015-04-24 23:41:27 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
I'm going to guess that you are either going to find an older Jove or a recently killed capsuleer.


That's the thing Mister Mokk. The people running the autopsy weren't sure of anything besides the fact it was of Jovian origin. But no details beyond that!

If the body is thousands of years old it could have been an awakened Sleeper whose body is kept alive by the exoskeleton.

If the body is a thousand years old or less, that means the fate of the Jove Empire was to become Sleeper meat puppets.

Both are equally exciting!
Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
#37 - 2015-04-24 23:47:04 UTC
Well this is bad news. Superadvanced aliens attacking our precious New Eden. Has anyone tried contacting representative of The Society of Conscious Thought? This organization has been founded by jovian so they could still have some contacts with them. Perhaps they can give us light to this matter. It would seem that drifters are attacking jovians too so they are enemy of jovians.

(rest of Mikhems transmission is meaningless mumble)

Mikhem

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#38 - 2015-04-24 23:54:22 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
I'm going to guess that you are either going to find an older Jove or a recently killed capsuleer.


That's the thing Mister Mokk. The people running the autopsy weren't sure of anything besides the fact it was of Jovian origin. But no details beyond that!

If the body is thousands of years old it could have been an awakened Sleeper whose body is kept alive by the exoskeleton.

If the body is a thousand years old or less, that means the fate of the Jove Empire was to become Sleeper meat puppets.

Both are equally exciting!


If things were as simple as that we would have had some more detailed answers. However there are two major problems:

The content of Carbon-14 in an organism depends on the level of Carbon-14 in the surrounding air which depends on the Carbon-14 of the environment. There can be a huge difference between different planets and a smaller difference between station environment but as long as we don't know what environment the body has originally been exposed to we cannot get acuate results on this method.

The low radiation of the drifter body does also interfere with our readings to make it even more inaccuate.

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Wendrika Hydreiga
#39 - 2015-04-25 00:13:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Wendrika Hydreiga
What sort of scientists throws the towel because they think a test might not give results? A good scientist would have done every possible battery of tests anyways!

The question is rather simple. Is it a Jove body or a Sleeper body?

The report state the teeth were in good condition. Now the question we should ask is, did the Drifter bite on anything during this epoch? The report also says the diggestive tract was present but glistened in some form of nanite byproduct. Did the conversion happened recently or a long time ago?

If carbon dating is out of the picture, check for organic contaminants! If that thing has been living in a Sleeper bubblewrap like the lack of immune system suggests, we can rule out a ghastly demise for the Jove Empire, which we haven't heard since ages!
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#40 - 2015-04-25 00:23:06 UTC
Seeing as the Q&A session was, uh, rather interrupted, Ms. Starsurge, associates, would you be willing to field some questions here?

For instance, does the 'unknown radiation' of the blood match any other objects we're aware of? For instance, Antikythera Elements, Tyrannos weapons, the radiation from Caroline's Star...?

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