Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello everyone,

with the new structure system detailed in this devblog entry, there will be new anchoring skills, see here:
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And other pictures in the blog.

Assuming the attribute system is not removed until release of these skills, I would like to suggest that the current attribute set-up of Anchoring and Starbase Defence Management not be used for these new skills.

Instead, they should use Intelligence and Memory as primary or secondary attributes, but not charisma, which should be limited to actual corp management and leadership skills.

Additionally, the new skills should be placed in a new category.

o7, Pip

PS CCPlz, no more charisma remaps

I'd say the exact opposite.

Charisma is considered a dump stat because so few skills use it.

The solution to it being a dump stat is not to make sure that no skills use it, it's to make more skills use it and thus make it less of a dump stat.

Looking at the dev post, it says that the way structures are managed will be changed. That would make it logical to put the skills in a new category.

But if it is going to be handled the way you say, I agree that it would make charisma less of a "useless" stat and that my suggestion would not be sound then.

This, what OP is basically saying is that he feels Charisma is worthless, which isn't a good reason to move structure skills to a different attribute. If anything it's a flaw in the attribute system and the distribution of skills by attribute.

Charisma originally made sense because you had to work out the rights to anchor something in someone else's space. The structure system however has pretty much had the last bits of this removed with the removal of faction status as a limiter on POS anchoring.

I'd rather see the attribute system reworked or removed than see Charisma made even more worthless, making the remaps where you do need to train into it even more painful due to lack of stuff to train.

Totally agree.

At the moment, charisma is needed for leadership boosting and corp management, too. It's not completely useless, though I agree that it could be more useful. My concern is that, if the horrible attribute system will be kept, it should at least make sense.
A char used for structure management doesn't need the other skills dependant on charisma. That's the issue.



That would be the ideal solution. But I doubt it will happen any time soon.

If the magic Entosis wand can affect buildings, why not charisma?

I too feel that charisma should be made more useful as an attribute.... atm I remap yearly and I am... *how old am ? oh yes!* 7 years old in game... I have yet to go on a charisma remap.

that said, my trading alt is still stuck on her charisma remap, simply because I've never needed to train anything else on her.

skill groups that use charisma:
trade (all)
social (all)
leadership (all)
corp management (all)
infomorph skills (3 skills under neural enhancement) [infomorph synchronising, infomorph psychology, and advanced infomorph psychology]
command center skills (2 skills under Planetary management) [Command Centre upgrades, and Interplanetary Consolidation]
research project management (2 skill under science)

On one hand making charisma more usefull is fine idea. On the other hand = what has charisma to do with installing hardware item? I should smile better to make building build faster? Just not so logical, it seems to me.