Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I recently ran into an issue where, after selling a character, realized I forgot to transfer a number of corporate shares from him back to the relevant corporations.

It would be good, in my opinion, that this be added to the checklist of things to do when buying/selling characters, or add an automatic feature to do so when a character changes accounts or is sold.

Luckily in my case, I was able to contact the person I sold the character too, and he kindly returned the shares to me.

In all the bustle of transferring a character, I imagine more than one person has overlooked wallet shares in some form or another (I myself have received characters with shares on them through legal CCP-endorsed transfers), so some kind of mechanic for checking for this like the transfer service checks for many other things would be good, or do an automatic swap over back to the corp, or perhaps add a check box during the sale process on the website.

Before the other party returned my shares, I actually received a GM response saying that I could not be helped, because CCP currently lacks the technical/GM tools to transfer shares themselves, and the GM suggested I post this thread here for feedback.

As edgy as you may be trying to be, this doesn't do anything to address the problem within CCP's current guidelines.

For one, under the current account transfer language, nothing of real value should be left on a transferring character. Shares can be of enormous value. CCP current has no mechanical ability to reverse or fix this if a mistake is made during or after the transfer process, unlike all other assets in the game.

All the things you just describe were things that occurred in game, within CCP guidelines and controllable mechanics, what I described is not.

There are also many reasons to put shares on characters, beyond your clearly very limited understanding of corporation mechanics. The big annoyance is a few shares left on a character just allows them to see (and be annoyed by) every vote that occurs without being able to influence them, at worst, a corporate can inadvertently suffer when someone sells a toon in a corp without checking, which is completely outside the purvue or control of the corporation in question, or CCP.

You can't see corporate mail unless you have a character in the corp. Shares do not give you access to corporate mail in a corp you are not in.

You can only see vote notifications.

So, yeah, did you make that up for flavor?

That happened to me once, because I too am a bad.

Petitioned it, quoting the appropriate rule from the character forums, and CCP sent me back the shares with a note that said, in a nutshell, stop sucking.

So they aren't unaware of the issue, and it really is up to the seller to make sure there's nothing of value left on the character in question.

Nope.

I don't know what settings you had... but shares DO allow people to read corp-wide mails, not just notifications.

yeah im inclined to agree with this,
yeah yeah consequences and all that (which im normally with ye on) but in the context of a toon sale this just seems like an oversight.

shares kinda suck though so they will probably be looked at when corps get a pass

I'm with James on this. Stop being bad.

Well, that's very unfortunate for you.

At this stage, it's not part of the forum rules or character trade rules that you need to hand back shares, so you're not able to be reimbursed these shares.

However, I'll be reviewing the forum rules this weekend for the Character Bazaar given that SKINs are going to change the value of characters quite significantly.

I'll look at including a note regarding shares too, so that the rules are more clearly defined :)

- F

This is for the good.

Clear rules, one way or the other, mean that either next time we get to laugh at the bad explicitly, or they get their thing that they read as implicitly part of the rules without any explicit statement to 1his effect.