EVE New Citizens Q&A

Im a couple days away from having skills to be able to buy one. Cost about 30 mil ISK and was looking for advice on best way to protect it. I currently have 2 hobgoblin scout drones that do great against npc's in the .8 security area I mine, but when I get Retriever I want to try and protect against other players.

Is there a specific shield or armor module I should get that would keep me alive till I can warp out or till Concord comes?

Should I train to get better combat drones to fight other players?

Thanks!

damage control II,

however a better idea would be to add CODE. as a contact and keep an eye on local.

First gank vs tank

understand that even as mining ship you need to balance the gank (how much m3 you mine) and tank.

DONT DONT DONT place **** load of mining laser upgrades. please don't.

first rigs,
I recommend some shield extender rigs which increase your shield pool, or some resist rigs according to your local rats damage types.

High slots:
Strip miners, if u can get modulated with crystals go for it.

Medium,
ignore prop mods... just bookmark the rocks and warp 0 on them.
use some resist mods like shield hardeners or their passive version to increase your resist.
I would recommend getting kinetic and thermal resist no matter where you are based (iirc that's damage type used by catalyst pilots to suicide gank you).
Don't use shield boosters, waste of time.
And I don't use the astroeid scanner modules... mining barrages mine so much you just clear the entire belt side to side I didn't bother to scan in order to min/max.

Low slots:
use Damage control unit. why? cheap and easy tank increase. also only module which gives hull resists across the board and this may save you.
place some mining laser upgrades on the empty slots.

Mining tips:
1. use shuttle to scout belts and "bookmark" each belt using one of the rocks as point to mark. then u just warp 0 on that rock.
2. always! align to a station or gate or something...
3. place your drones on "Passive" so they won't shoot back on suicide gankers granting them limited engagement on you.
4. don't let your drones fly around only launch them when rats are on grid aiming at you.
5. if you are not going to loot and salvage the wrecks of the rats abandon them.
6. if you see suicide ganker (catalyst etc...) immediately WARP away. your defense is to hold on until you warp out. if you are unable to warp due to point placed on you then you must hope you use enough tank to hold out until concord will arrive.
7. if u see some weird ship like venture without mining lasers coming at you it is a scout for a ganker. he will stick to you on 0 meters then the ganker will warp on your and shoot you down.

most importantly,
don't fly what you can't lose. so unless you got like 70 million isk to purchase 2 ships in advance don't fly it.

if all else fails...
procurer - > cause battleship tank in cruiser price with bonus to drone damage.

Nalelmir gives a lot of good advice and I'd probably be with him on not using an asteroid scanner however if you want to max out your isk per hour an asteroid scanner is probably the most important module that you can fit to your ship. This kind of goes off into a side topic on how the onset of massive amount of barge and exhumer ganking has actually lead to the dumbing down of mining in that all the skill that used to be involved in mining is gone now,at least in high sec, and you just fit max tank and wait for your ore hold to fill up.

Other options involve mining in a fleet with someone that has fleet skills. That can help you align and warp faster as well as increase your armor and shield hit points. With a fleet booster ship that can be even more. Additionally you could do a full on bait fit and go to systems known for ganking and bring friends.

Thanks for all the advice!



When you say "align" what exactly do you mean. Have my ship pointed in that direction?

mining alligned means start mine, click a station, hit allign, then stop your ship. but i can assure you, if you tank your procurer correctly, you gonna laugh at the gankers =) they might be gonna try you once, because your young. dont fear them :) just be precautious.

click a station, click align, click warp if anything scary happens

They won't make you ore cargo hold capacity go down.

Oh it's a common misconception, like cargo expanders on a bowhead (they don't effect the hold the ship goes in)

Urban legend, won't work. A ship at zero speed counts as not aligned.