Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Because bots would have a hard time to survive without local.

No really, I'd like to see local removed(put into delayed mode) for all k-space. There's far too much free intel in this game.

With Supers, hot drops and all that I don't think simply removing local would work ideally... but something more "halfway" towards a no-local type of environment. (Yes, I'm biased towards one particular idea...)

Worm holes have what you want.

Bai!

Almost all of the CSM is null power block holders. Removing their instant intel tool would be a great threat to them. So of course they are most likely lying to CCP saying that removing local is a bad idea.

Bad for their nap trains and bots...

CCP Greyscale's plan was to nerf all Local, 0.0 and empire, and replace it with some kind of a new intel tool. Perhaps CCP Unifex, the new EVE online Senior Producer, could shed some light on what's going on with this.

Removing local ... hm ... sad idea.

People want to remove one of the most important communications tools,
but give no clue about what should replace it for all those who enjoy talking to others just so.

In this thread here, it seems i'm the only one actually talking to people in local and enjoying it ...
... and nobody seems to care about the fact that people who have never met before start to talk in local, just by coincidence.

Removing local would make the game more empty, even if it's only a perceived emptiness. (counts anyway)
It's no counter-argument to say "go find a corp", because that's something completely different.

I know that many people don't bother talking in local for reasons i don't understand/don't care about,
but there are plenty who love doing it in highsec, lowsec and pointless err nullsec.

That said, the idea of "local locals" around/in stations (WiS?) would mitigate the loss a bit,
although that would only be a sad excuse of a local chat then...

Removing local works in w-space due to other aspects of w-space that make it feasible for smaller entities to live in WHs despite the lack of local, such as mass limitations, non-static routes and permanent cynojam. These features of w-space favor the defender to the point where it discourages large-scale alliances from simply rolling in and taking vast swaths of the space for themselves (not to suggest that sov 0.0 doesn't have defensive advantages either). There's the additional incentive of high gross profit to cover for the costs in defending/exploiting these systems. Without these defensive advantages that w-space confers, removing local disincentivizes 'smallholding' and low-level null industry even moreso.

Personally I believe local should be replaced with a more active form of intelligence gathering that goes beyond mashing the 'SCAN' button every 5 seconds. Something like a HUD overlay that displays warp tunnels, gate fire, cynos and other spatial distortions occurring around the pilot. Local could still be updated automatically, but only for those with blue standings.

Yes. What we need to do is make sweeping changes to something, while totally ignoring the people who actually know about said thing! brilliant!

What are you, a politician?

Don't forget, all 0.0 alliances who have SOV and are on the CSM do nothing but bot and gank people. It's the sole reason we took SOV.


Honestly, it would be absolutely hilarious if they actually did implement Ingvar's idea without any other changes, just to see how right I am with all my predictions.

Personally I predict that if we're seeing any changes, it'll be some sort of shootable module which allows system owners to select who gets access to the information of who's in system.

I wonder why CCP doesn't try it for a week or two: Put every system in Eve into delayed local mode. The code is there, look at w-space, so it has to be merely a configuration thing. This topic is still warm and has been disputed over for ...years? Why don't they just see how it works? Announce it, or use some funny lore background like Sansha Incursions, or a Jove intervention which breaks comms, so they can test how we, the players adapt to it and give feedback on the forums.