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Regarding WINMATAR and Biohazard

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Slevin-Kelevra
brotherhood of desman
#81 - 2015-04-22 05:50:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Slevin-Kelevra
Otsdarva IV wrote:


Slevin-Kelevra wrote:
Lol at you random faction warfare nobody alliances, trying to act all high and mighty because an alliance that actually created content and fun wants to reform.



Funny coming from a nobody currently in a nobody alliance. Weren't you talking about hypocrisy in this same thread?



You're correct, however it would only become hypocrisy if I went around stating it was not, which I haven't done:
Quote:
the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense

Calling them out for thinking they are more then what they are is not hypocrisy, however if I were to do the same as them it would be....
For example when someone claims others don't know the definition of a word and then goes on to get it wrong themselves.

Quote:

Btw you're meant to clickbait in everypost you make cause ur forums r **** :%)

Ummm, ok? Your **** is bigger than mine I guess?
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#82 - 2015-04-22 07:37:20 UTC
Mystical Might wrote:
Just think of people as content and you'll have no problems turning them into pods (or turning those into dust with the smartbomb wisdom )))) ).



I think here is the core of a problem. FW is the very core of role playing part of eve. Here anyone, who sees other human beings as 'content', is seriously out, IMHO. I just hope you are not like this in a real life. Just do not lie to yourself : your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.

If you want to stay pirate without coming into discussion about what kind of a man you are - stay out of FW systems. Here it is about politic, loyalty, spy games and betray. And traitors called traitors as they deserve this. Use to it or move on somewhere else. For me Eve is more than just a shooter and other players are more than content, feeling sorry for you that you lost it. Eve has so many colors and you seems to play in a grey, dull world.

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Philpip
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#83 - 2015-04-22 08:57:41 UTC
erg cz wrote:
Mystical Might wrote:
Just think of people as content and you'll have no problems turning them into pods (or turning those into dust with the smartbomb wisdom )))) ).



I think here is the core of a problem. FW is the very core of role playing part of eve. Here anyone, who sees other human beings as 'content', is seriously out, IMHO. I just hope you are not like this in a real life. Just do not lie to yourself : your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.

If you want to stay pirate without coming into discussion about what kind of a man you are - stay out of FW systems. Here it is about politic, loyalty, spy games and betray. And traitors called traitors as they deserve this. Use to it or move on somewhere else. For me Eve is more than just a shooter and other players are more than content, feeling sorry for you that you lost it. Eve has so many colors and you seems to play in a grey, dull world.


By your own logic, everyone who has killed someone in-game is therefore destined to become a murderer.

If you want FW systems to be exclusive to FW, fight for them. CCP are not going to make all FW systems hisec so that you can only fight, and be fought by other FW entities.

No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2015-04-22 09:41:45 UTC
Out of curiosity - why on earth have WINMATAR declared war on White Knights of Britannia?

Seems fairly random really. Despite Tribal Force declaring war on you because of your history attacking militia corps smaller than yourselves you are already attacking smaller militia corps who to the best of my knowledge were unaligned in this dispute?

That book you read on diplomacy wasn't 'How to lose friends and alienate people' was it?

*bewildered*

Some goods fights in Eszur last night by the way. Amarr Militia, Civil War Targets lurking in ambush, Pirates, Capital escalations and Minmatar capturing another system. Was good fun :) after the stress wore off of course!
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#85 - 2015-04-22 11:24:22 UTC
Philpip wrote:


By your own logic, everyone who has killed someone in-game is therefore destined to become a murderer.



I pointed out the difference between player base in FW systems and the rest of low sec. Loyalty is not an empty word here - so do not be surprised by reaction. That what my message was all about.

No idea how it is in null sov. systems, but it is pointless to make tiers in non-FW low sec about blues getting red. FW has some story line in its background and that makes differense, IMHO. Role playing persons get in here and make the game more emotional, deeper, if you like... Ppl like that triumvirate guy think they are stronger cause they do not care about betrayal, borders etc... But they are not stronger - they are simply more poor, primitive, so to say. Again - that is only my personal opinion. I am in no position to tell anyone how to play, merely try to explain the reaction of some players, posted here. Reaction, which was wrong in eyes of many, but was not understood properly from my point of view.

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Philpip
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#86 - 2015-04-22 11:48:06 UTC
erg cz wrote:
your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.


No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment.

No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#87 - 2015-04-22 12:03:26 UTC
Philpip wrote:
erg cz wrote:
your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.


No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment.



My statement is not that wrong, as you think it is. Scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports media violence as a significant factor contributing to increased aggression Media violence, in-game lies... I do believe that it forming your character, regardless how old you are. Some people say: "do not write in internet what you whould not shout out loud in street". Cause internet is a public space.

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Philpip
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#88 - 2015-04-22 13:24:28 UTC
erg cz wrote:
Philpip wrote:
erg cz wrote:
your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.


No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment.



My statement is not that wrong, as you think it is. Scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports media violence as a significant factor contributing to increased aggression Media violence, in-game lies... I do believe that it forming your character, regardless how old you are. Some people say: "do not write in internet what you whould not shout out loud in street". Cause internet is a public space.


Genuinely interesting article. I have always used gaming as a means of venting frustration in the same way I have used sport. I would suspect that specific personality traits would be present regardless of whether they 'gamed' or not. Lets be honest, the same link has been made time and time again with violent films.

No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#89 - 2015-04-22 13:59:43 UTC
Philpip wrote:
Lets be honest, the same link has been made time and time again with violent films.


"Practice is the mother of learning". What do you "practice", when you watching films? That is passive activity. Interaction in game is bit different, IMHO. False sense of impunity due to IT anonymity tempts the worst out of a man. You practice your worst sides of your character - you degrade in real life as well, IMHO.

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#90 - 2015-04-22 18:32:08 UTC
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:
WINMATAR AWOXed smaller groups because they assumed they were too big to stop.

um, what? are you serious?

Lol

seriously?

Lol

Lol

now you're just telling lies to feel confident about your failures

Lol

just give up and quit

Lol

seriously

Lol
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#91 - 2015-04-22 18:33:46 UTC
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:
Out of curiosity - why on earth have WINMATAR declared war on White Knights of Britannia?

Seems fairly random really. Despite Tribal Force declaring war on you because of your history attacking militia corps smaller than yourselves you are already attacking smaller militia corps who to the best of my knowledge were unaligned in this dispute?

That book you read on diplomacy wasn't 'How to lose friends and alienate people' was it?

*bewildered*

Some goods fights in Eszur last night by the way. Amarr Militia, Civil War Targets lurking in ambush, Pirates, Capital escalations and Minmatar capturing another system. Was good fun :) after the stress wore off of course!

They were reposred as awoxers.

Obviously Aslon does not like awoxers.

So he wardec'd awoxers.

any more silly questions you have?
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#92 - 2015-04-22 18:37:21 UTC
erg cz wrote:
I think here is the core of a problem. FW is the very core of role playing part of eve. Here anyone, who sees other human beings as 'content', is seriously out, IMHO. I just hope you are not like this in a real life. Just do not lie to yourself : your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.

are you saying you're NOT separating real life from virtual life? are you for real? there's something seriously wrong with you if your virtual life influences your real life.

GET HELP. Fix yourself up. then come back to EVE.
Maximus Decimal
Doomheim
#93 - 2015-04-22 18:51:31 UTC
grrr WINMATAR.
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#94 - 2015-04-22 19:03:06 UTC
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:
Out of curiosity - why on earth have WINMATAR declared war on White Knights of Britannia?

Seems fairly random really. Despite Tribal Force declaring war on you because of your history attacking militia corps smaller than yourselves you are already attacking smaller militia corps who to the best of my knowledge were unaligned in this dispute?

That book you read on diplomacy wasn't 'How to lose friends and alienate people' was it?

*bewildered*

Some goods fights in Eszur last night by the way. Amarr Militia, Civil War Targets lurking in ambush, Pirates, Capital escalations and Minmatar capturing another system. Was good fun :) after the stress wore off of course!

They were reposred as awoxers.

Obviously Aslon does not like awoxers.

So he wardec'd awoxers.

any more silly questions you have?


So it wasn't because one of their pilots solo'd Max's (who is in NC not Minnie Mil...) 304,000,000 Force Recon ship in a Vexor 10 minutes before Winmatars wardec then? Because if that were the case that would mean delicious WINMATAR tears for everyone else...shame :)
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#95 - 2015-04-22 19:11:36 UTC
FUNNY STORY - I am doing politics as a degree.
better check urself friend (ingameirl).

Psycopaths be comin' at ya )

@Erg Cz or whatever his name is.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#96 - 2015-04-22 19:18:32 UTC
Maximus Decimal wrote:
grrr WINMATAR.

grrrrrrrrrrrr
Douglas Nolm
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2015-04-22 19:19:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Douglas Nolm
erg cz wrote:
Philpip wrote:
erg cz wrote:
your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.


No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment.



My statement is not that wrong, as you think it is. Scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports media violence as a significant factor contributing to increased aggression Media violence, in-game lies... I do believe that it forming your character, regardless how old you are. Some people say: "do not write in internet what you whould not shout out loud in street". Cause internet is a public space.



I grew up in the 80's when pacman was the epitome of video gaming, and I had to put 10p in the slot to play it. By that logic I should have gone from playing pacman to running around darkened rooms filled with flashing lights and electronic music whilst munching on pills...


... Oh...


... Mysty, you're gonna become an RL pirate!
Otsdarva IV
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#98 - 2015-04-23 04:20:06 UTC
HA HA HA HA


THIS THREAD IS JUST TOO GOOD. WENT FROM QQ WINMATAR TO IF UR BAD IN GAME UR A BAD PERSON REAL FAST.

Real talk: you're so dumb hahahahahahahahaha

Also aslon you should fit a point to your recon next time
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#99 - 2015-04-23 04:27:17 UTC
Otsdarva IV wrote:
HA HA HA HA


THIS THREAD IS JUST TOO GOOD. WENT FROM QQ WINMATAR TO IF UR BAD IN GAME UR A BAD PERSON REAL FAST.

Real talk: you're so dumb hahahahahahahahaha

Also aslon you should fit a point to your recon next time


I bet u shitposte in real life 2 ots )
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#100 - 2015-04-23 07:02:14 UTC
Douglas Nolm wrote:



I grew up in the 80's when pacman was the epitome of video gaming, and I had to put 10p in the slot to play it. By that logic I should have gone from playing pacman to running around darkened rooms filled with flashing lights and electronic music whilst munching on pills...



There is huge difference between "move my pixel there" and "I just lie to that virtual character". Cause there is a real person behind this character and you know that. It is perfectly ok to kill the ship of theis person or even pixels of his virtual body with your pixels, but this is MMORP game. Relationships between real ppl is a big part of it. And that aspect of the game is seriosly underestimated in this thread, IMHO.

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