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Now that we have that out the way.

The LIMITED EDITION SHIP no longer becomes limited edition because it will be a skin that can be applied to your ship constantly over and over again.

a) It will lower the price of it.
b) Now with it not being lost all the time can be applied to any Scorpion no matter how many times you lose it.

A limited edition ship with unlimited uses! The whole point of Eve is that when something is destroyed it's gone...

The same with the Rattlesnake Victory Edition. Now you can just go fly it without risking losing the actual ship.

Which part of "now there will be unlimited copied of limited edition ships" do you not understand?

Oh dear. You're looking at a more than ****** off dude. I have looked through all the comments so far for this dev blog and I am quite surprised no one else has realised a few things.

Everyone please go into the game client and, even if don't own one, go and look at the current graphical previews for the Gallente Dominix, Tristan, & Vexor. Aren't they beautiful ??? I expect quite a few people have either bought additional game time or spent possibly billions of ISK to get their hands on these beauties. Wait for it..............

Now. Come back to this dev blog and look at the new versions.... I mean abhorrent creations.... of the previous beautiful ship designs. Instead of glinting blue panels we have a dull blue wash across the whole hull. It looks like a can of old light blue undercoat paint has been poured all over them. If this is what we are going to get instead of what we currently have I think I will be selling them on rather than make myself sad by flying them.

Now everyone pop back to the game client and look at the ship engines from the rear. I often 'fly' my ships from this or a diagonal rear perspective. The rear detail or side detail of the ships are not obscured and it all looks nice and clear and detailed. Now pop back to the dev blog and look at the reimagined rear engine views. I haven't looked at all of them yet but take a really bad example where there are multiple engine. The Charon for example is a really blotchy mess now which obscures much of the rear view of th ship. Please can we have the old engines back

I'll give you one more example of a currently beautifully designed and exquisitely looking ship to compare with what is about to thrown at us in the name of improved design within EVE Online. Go to your game client and bring up the graphical preview of the Hulk mining vessel. I realise you may hate mining to your inner core and never ever want to fly it but just look at the hull. The clean lines and detailed panels of differing colours. The way the 'ORE' symbol stands out against shiny magenta/rust coloured panels. It's just wonderful. There are many other beautiful ship designs currently but this is just one example of what we might be about to drop into the dustbin.

Now go back to the dev blog and look at the ORE ship skin for the Mackinaw. I know I've chosen a different ship to compare to BUT the Hulk will get the same colour scheme if it gets a ORE skin and the Mackinaw is somewhat detailed like the Hulk. The ORE Mackinaw skin is, as you can now see, as dull as ditchwater and not something I would be seen dead in !! Is this what most of us would like to see happen to the Hulk ?? The answer is clearly a resounding NO !!!!

I rest my case and ask for CCPs opinion on my comments.

There is one aspect missing from the new SKIN feature: The ability to deactivate and remove any permanent SKINs. I'm fine with not having this option for temporary in-game SKINs, but this should be an option for any AUR SKINs.

With respect to the pricing structure, despite requests - this was not made available for any of us who actively participated in the testing process over the past few weeks. If it had, I suspect the overwhelming consensus would have been that these are simply priced far too high - especially considering the limitations (individual T1 hulls). I'm not sure how fond players are of their Tormentors or Merlins to drop $20 on changing their visual appearance...

I think that SKINs should have been priced a bit more along these lines:

• Frigates ... 500-750 AUR
• Destroyers ... 750-1250 AUR
• Cruisers ... 1250-1750 AUR
• Battlecruisers ... 1750-2250 AUR
• Battleships ... 2250-2750 AUR
• Carriers ... 2750-3750 AUR
• Dreadnoughts ... 3500-4500 AUR
• Titans ... 4500-6500 AUR

Web versions of the ships do not represent the actual in-game versions completely accurately. Nothing is changing to the in-client ships, they'll keep looking just as awesome.

Hmm well have some skins but have others that are or were drops. some I got as drops others bought now I find that they are

gonna change after 30 days . some of these I've had for a year.. If your gonna change them to b just 30 day ships What is the

since of that ?? it gives u nothing special amd some of those people did pay a premium for not being very special if 30 day ship..

Just my thought .. as a drop should b kept fully no 30 day crap

There will be X of the ship out there. That X will not increase, or decrease. Still limited edition. (you just can't lose it)

It's really disappointing that the pricing structure couldn't have been discussed prior. I think those of us involved in the testing could have offered you some invaluable feedback. In any event, since market speculation now appears to be rampant - I'm not sure what (if anything) can be done at this point. If initial feedback and interest for this feature is mixed, I hope you use this as a reference point to make improvements in the cost structure.

Rare ship skins should increase in price over time, but also see the light of day more. This is good for collecting, good for showing off something rare and cool, and good for people who actually get to see these ship skins in space.

By and large, I love it. Been a long time coming, and I think it's a great change \o/

Now on to my issues.
The CURRENT Pirate Skins that have dropped, imho, should become Perma, and all NEW one should be time limited. A way of rewarding early-adopters of using the Ship Painting trial program.

Where in the world are the skins for the Marauders? They were added to the client in Dec! Please, let us have them. Why do we keep needing to wait to skin our nice missions ships :(

Reselling SKINS. I feel there should be a mechanic added to allow us to unplug an installed perma SKIN. I'd even be fine if cost a PLEX to do or something like that. As it stands now I can fly my RS Victory Edition, do missions, whatever, then Sell it tomorrow if I want too. Come the change, if I fly it, I'll NEVER be able to sell it. That doesn't seem right at all.


Now lastly.. atm we can see Special Skinned ships on the overview. Will there be any indication now, or when it's added to killmails, to indicate that a ship has a SKIN vs just being in the normal hull? Either a new column, or maybe a * just at the end of the hull name, something like that?

okay... maybe i'm not reading the blog and all the following posts right... maybe i'm just missing something.....


so... / TO CLARIFY /

My Sarum and Tash Murkon Magnates are having their Special Edition bonuses stripped away to give me a base Magnate and both of those SKINS as permanent items?

Cause if that's the case... I need to go find a new scanning ship. >.>