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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-04-22 13:26:28 UTC
This, in my opinion, is really BM.

However without this mechanic we would have a ton of systems that hoard sites with nobody to despawn them until you happen upon them by accident.

So I propose this: combat anoms have a 24 hour lifetime regardless of someone activating them or not.

Might not be the best idea ever but maybe we as a community can come up with something better.

Art of Explosions
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2015-04-22 13:33:46 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Might not be the best idea ever


this is the only correct part of your post

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
#3 - 2015-04-22 13:38:07 UTC
If I hop into a hole and it is:

  • Empty
  • Occupied by bears
  • Occupied by people that I don't like


I activate every sig and anom in the hole.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-04-22 13:38:17 UTC
PL moving to wormhole space now? Cool

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SleeplessGuardianWitness CustodyAgent
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-04-22 13:47:02 UTC
It's a very good mechanic.
I'm sure that my paying customers would agree.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-04-22 13:58:35 UTC
good for who though?

We get on in the evening only to find no money for us to buy ships to give other wormholers content.

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B0T0
Dzieci we mgle
#7 - 2015-04-22 13:59:40 UTC  |  Edited by: B0T0
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
However without this mechanic we would have a ton of systems that hoard sites with nobody to despawn them until you happen upon them by accident.


That will force you to farm in your static/statics, not in your home system.

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-04-22 14:03:43 UTC
B0T0 wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
However without this mechanic we would have a ton of systems that hoard sites with nobody to despawn them until you happen upon them by accident.


With force you to farm in your static/statics and not in your home system.


You can't do this with caps

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Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#9 - 2015-04-22 14:09:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Ab'del Abu
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
B0T0 wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
However without this mechanic we would have a ton of systems that hoard sites with nobody to despawn them until you happen upon them by accident.


With force you to farm in your static/statics and not in your home system.


You can't do this with caps


Uhm. If the money you get of escalations is not enough, then your group is clearly too big and should split up ...

On-topic: An automatic despawn timer of 1-2 weeks for be much more reasonable. There is actually supposed to be such a mechanism (2 weeks, I believe), at least that's what CCP claims. Doesn't appear to be working though.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-04-22 14:52:53 UTC
Ab'del Abu wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
B0T0 wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
However without this mechanic we would have a ton of systems that hoard sites with nobody to despawn them until you happen upon them by accident.


With force you to farm in your static/statics and not in your home system.


You can't do this with caps


Uhm. If the money you get of escalations is not enough, then your group is clearly too big and should split up ...

On-topic: An automatic despawn timer of 1-2 weeks for be much more reasonable. There is actually supposed to be such a mechanism (2 weeks, I believe), at least that's what CCP claims. Doesn't appear to be working though.


According to reputable sources, the despawn is currently set to one week if the site isn't activated otherwise.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#11 - 2015-04-22 15:05:59 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
good for who though?

We get on in the evening only to find no money for us to buy ships to give other wormholers content.


then don't leave them sitting? ezpz

"We're getting ****** by a mechanic so let's change it because we can't adapt" WH Space 2015

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#12 - 2015-04-22 15:23:29 UTC
Despawning peoples sites is a sign of love and charity and should be more widespread practice. Farming homesystem is a evil mechanic that lures people into isolation. Help a stranger and despawn their sites!

~Bringer of happiness

http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#13 - 2015-04-22 15:41:50 UTC
If you build up enough sites, you can farm carebears and their salvagers instead. With that mechanic, how would the average bear be able to differentiate between unsafe and most likely safe?
Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's
#14 - 2015-04-22 16:03:51 UTC
I love annual traditions. Can I kick off the "Hey how about random sleeper spawns for cap escalations" 2015 event?
Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#15 - 2015-04-22 16:04:04 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
B0T0 wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
However without this mechanic we would have a ton of systems that hoard sites with nobody to despawn them until you happen upon them by accident.


With force you to farm in your static/statics and not in your home system.


You can't do this with caps


Let me try:

WITH FORCE YOU TO FARM IN YOUR STATIC/STATICS AND NOT IN YOUR HOME SYSTEM.

I have no idea what this sentence is supposed to mean though.
Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's
#16 - 2015-04-22 16:28:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghenghis Kralj
Sequester Risalo wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
B0T0 wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
However without this mechanic we would have a ton of systems that hoard sites with nobody to despawn them until you happen upon them by accident.


With force you to farm in your static/statics and not in your home system.


You can't do this with caps


Let me try:

WITH FORCE YOU TO FARM IN YOUR STATIC/STATICS AND NOT IN YOUR HOME SYSTEM.

I have no idea what this sentence is supposed to mean though.


in case you have 0 imagination:

WILL/WOULD FORCE YOU TO FARM IN YOUR STATIC/STATICS AND NOT IN YOUR HOME SYSTEM.

PS
yes you can do this with cap in c5/6 with cap statics. just not multiple caps. oh noes!!!
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#17 - 2015-04-22 16:38:11 UTC
it's almost like people have bear holes for a reason!?

or do static single cap escalations?

look at all these solutions!

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#18 - 2015-04-22 16:42:41 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Ab'del Abu wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
B0T0 wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
However without this mechanic we would have a ton of systems that hoard sites with nobody to despawn them until you happen upon them by accident.


With force you to farm in your static/statics and not in your home system.


You can't do this with caps


Uhm. If the money you get of escalations is not enough, then your group is clearly too big and should split up ...

On-topic: An automatic despawn timer of 1-2 weeks for be much more reasonable. There is actually supposed to be such a mechanism (2 weeks, I believe), at least that's what CCP claims. Doesn't appear to be working though.


According to reputable sources, the despawn is currently set to one week if the site isn't activated otherwise.


Yeah, some dev posted this info on the forums a couple of months ago. Still pretty sure, it's not working as intended.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-04-22 17:38:32 UTC
Okok I admit I didn't really give enough information so I just got all the trolls.

Non-capital capable static, we can't escalate for 4 solid hours like the best of the bears.

We want to just be able to do 6-8 sites in an evening to fund our pvp yet people just decide it's fun to warp to all of our sites meaning we can't fund our pvp.

Either way this mechanic is good in some ways (like I've mentioned) and quite clearly detrimental to ours.

I mistakenly then thought if i threw an idea out there then the good people of the wormhole community would maybe chip in their 2 cents and we could have a decent discussion going.

So far we have:

1. Some dude who hasn't seen the inside of wh space for years.
2. Few others who've presented alternatives that don't work

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Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's
#20 - 2015-04-22 17:41:16 UTC
I thought you had a c3 static. That's plenty of isk. Just don't all run the same site. Split up to make it faster. Once done, roll static.
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