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Dev blog: Ship Customization: Time to Show Some SKIN

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Alexis Nightwish
#121 - 2015-04-21 21:23:46 UTC
SilentAsTheGrave wrote:
$20 for a frigate ship skin?! Are you guys out of your ******* mind? X

Not just a frigate skin, a T1 frigate skin.

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Ivarr Kerensky
Kerensky Tactical Group
#122 - 2015-04-21 21:32:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivarr Kerensky
Alexis Nightwish wrote:
SilentAsTheGrave wrote:
$20 for a frigate ship skin?! Are you guys out of your ******* mind? X

Not just a frigate skin, a T1 frigate skin.


Fearless!


We're back in 2011.


Is Zinfandel still with CCP?

Excellence is an attitude.

Thoth Aventine
Doomheim
#123 - 2015-04-21 21:35:31 UTC
Odin Shadow wrote:
dam must have missed that. 10 accounts each with 5500 aur on and the stuffs I wanna buy is 6300. oh well will sit there for longer then I guess


This isn't an accident...
Wendrika Hydreiga
#124 - 2015-04-21 21:37:05 UTC
I can't believe my Guristas Edition Ships are all going to turn into regular ships 30 days after the patch... And no alternative to keep them permanently either!

I need permant Guristas Edition Ship SKINS!

Oh well... Lose some, win some.
Tristan Valentina
Moira.
Villore Accords
#125 - 2015-04-21 21:40:43 UTC
Multiple Blue posts on first page continuing to page 4.

Someone mentions money and the blues all run away.

CCP I know you are watching this please get out in front of this pricing issue with at least a statement giving some real reasoning besides market Hocus Pocus.

Someone get cookies to lure them out!

Tristan
Alexis Nightwish
#126 - 2015-04-21 21:41:41 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I can't believe my Guristas Edition Ships are all going to turn into regular ships 30 days after the patch... And no alternative to keep them permanently either!

I need permant Guristas Edition Ship SKINS!

Oh well... Lose some, win some.

Absolutely! I think that extant pirate SKINS should be permanent, but never sold in the store. Dropped versions would be temporary.

CCP approaches problems in one of two ways: nudge or cludge

EVE Online's "I win!" Button

Fixing bombs, not the bombers

Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#127 - 2015-04-21 21:41:48 UTC
Who do I have to kill to get this skin released? https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/ccpwgl/skindevblog/index.shtml?dna=aca2_t1:bloodraider:amarr&distance=3800

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#128 - 2015-04-21 21:46:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade

You may start with biomassing the person or entire team who thought up this SKIN for AUR crap. So, when are these things going to be available in LP stores?

UI Improvement Collective

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Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#129 - 2015-04-21 21:53:11 UTC
Tristan Valentina wrote:
Multiple Blue posts on first page continuing to page 4.

Someone mentions money and the blues all run away.

CCP I know you are watching this please get out in front of this pricing issue with at least a statement giving some real reasoning besides market Hocus Pocus.

Someone get cookies to lure them out!

Tristan



Well, their last post was 18:35 their time. How late do you expect them to stay at work? Blink

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#130 - 2015-04-21 22:01:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Teinyhr
Yeah I'll have to chip in and ask what is so hard to understand about the "micro" part in microtransactions? A months sub is not a microtransaction. I'm not saying this is entirely your fault CCP, several other MMO developers seem to have trouble understanding this concept as well, like Blizzard's F2P's with frankly ridiculous prices on cosmetic items.

Now what is a microtransaction? Anything from zero to about 5 dollars/euros/someothercurrencies. Even a fiver is in the upper limit, 3,99 would be deceptively reasonable. What do I mean with "deceptively reasonable?" It's on the surface a tiny amount you don't think about too much, until you notice you've spent it ten times already.
Lena Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#131 - 2015-04-21 22:21:06 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
Yeah I'll have to chip in and ask what is so hard to understand about the "micro" part in microtransactions? A months sub is not a microtransaction. I'm not saying this is entirely your fault CCP, several other MMO developers seem to have trouble understanding this concept as well, like Blizzard's F2P's with frankly ridiculous prices on cosmetic items.

Now what is a microtransaction? Anything from zero to about 5 dollars/euros/someothercurrencies. Even a fiver is in the upper limit, 3,99 would be deceptively reasonable. What do I mean with "deceptively reasonable?" It's on the surface a tiny amount you don't think about too much, until you notice you've spent it ten times already.


Yes and no. This is definitely true for a system in which the items are immediately account-bound.

However, in EVE these licenses can be traded for ISK. That means you don't have to spend a penny to acquire them. As yet-another-wealth-transfer mechanism, I don't think it's unreasonable for a permanent character-bound skin to be on par with the cost of a PLEX in terms of in-game effort/time spent. Especially when there are plenty of cheap permanent skins that will settle in the 50-150m range for "poors" to buy in-game as well, assuming people are rational and peg these to the going PLEX/AUR/$/ISK rates.

Also, as per someone else comparing these to the cost of clothing... yeah I fully expected these to be more pricey. After all, they affect something everyone actually sees and uses, rather than just a tiny niche corner of the game few people care about.
Ivarr Kerensky
Kerensky Tactical Group
#132 - 2015-04-21 22:22:53 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Well, their last post was 18:35 their time. How late do you expect them to stay at work? Blink


EVE being a 24 hour round the globe game I'd say... 24hours? Not the same folks obviously.

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Viktor Hadah
Negative-Impact
Templis CALSF
#133 - 2015-04-21 22:27:07 UTC
http://puu.sh/gLfV8/4fba22fa48.jpg

Where the slicer skins from fanfest at :(

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Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#134 - 2015-04-21 22:37:59 UTC
Prophecy Blood Raiders Edition is 30 days ?
I have that ship with this skin now, it will be 30 days after this comes into game ? so i will loose it ?
What?
Pace eGuerra
BCHP Bittanshal
#135 - 2015-04-21 22:44:23 UTC
"The general conversion plans will give you a SKIN if you had a Blueprint perviously"

Like a tight leather one with a mask?
Bubbleup Now
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#136 - 2015-04-21 22:45:27 UTC
I would like to ask why the only Hel skin is more expensive than the other mothership skins (with the exception of one of the 2 Amarr skins). Was the SKIN system developed by the Amarr oppressors?
P3ps1 Max
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#137 - 2015-04-21 22:51:30 UTC
Can't wait to purchase a few skins. Big smile

On the other hand:

Not in favor of players purchasing plex with in-game isk and converting it to AUR.
Lena Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#138 - 2015-04-21 22:54:53 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Not in favor of players purchasing plex with in-game isk and converting it to AUR.


The skin licenses are tradeable items with their own market tab. Converting ISK to PLEX to AUR won't be necessary anyway.
Kronossan
Bellum Esca
#139 - 2015-04-21 22:56:50 UTC
Quote:
all existing skin Blueprints will no longer be purchasable from the NES as of the publication of this dev blog.


I was waiting to buy the blueprints until I had gotten a bit more information on how the system would work, now you've finally released this info and prevent me from buying the blueprints :(

Can't you open the pilot program for another day or something, this sucks!
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#140 - 2015-04-21 22:58:13 UTC
Kind of disappointed with the prices on a lot of these items.

5000+ aurum might be acceptable for a titan, but asking the same for a tech 1 frigate is frankly pretty ridiculous. Would be one thing if it were that much for all variants of a hull (ex: Merlin, Hawk, and Harpy), but that's obviously not the case . I get that you wanted some skins to be rarer/more premium than others but asking that much for ships that most people dont use past 6 months is kind of distasteful in my opinion.