EVE General Discussion

another fine example is warfare links.

first of all, this bumping effect is silly. warp gates and asteroids can bump me out of alligment, but i cant use them as a cover. i hate it -.- and about ships, its also silly. how many mass an orca has, and how many on the mach? what is the shield hp on booth? i think the macha should be in deep shield on the first bump, and deep hull at the second one... btw losing ehp caused by an another player willingly is hostility isnt it? what about bumping a poor fool for 10 mins? for me, its looks lile a hostile action, but you cant attack them without getting concorded. im not an indi pilot, so i usually getting bumped by asteroids and warp gates, but i still hate the effect, especially because for missiles and ammo those things are not collidable.

Can't win 'em all.
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Would be fun to smash into jita undock with 100mn nomens at 10km/sec :-)

Never pay a ransom! They will either dishonor it and or invite others to ransom you.

It still isn't predictable! Some of those collision spheres are epic. There's nothing quite like watching your ship hump vacuum when you're (visually) more than a kilometer from the nearest obstacle.

It's one of the last remaining WTF aspects of the game.

The triple web only works as a forward strategy. If you web down before they ever bump you it will slingshot you insta warp but if you get bumped and the spooling begins, it's pretty much I-Win for the bump guy. They can hold you using bump mechanic for as long as they want. It's as good as tackle.

You can get a perspective of how bump spooling works by trying to web down large ships as they undock. The web mechanic won't work there because you undock with negative inertia unless you have an insta bookmark. Then it works with or without web assistance.

I will give CCP credit where it is due. The mass changes removed most ships from the bump brigade. Machariel is the only one that really does it well now but it does it with such certainty that anyone who wants to play that ransom game simply needs to own a Machariel and they are good to go. Bumping isn't hostile and they have no fear of retribution for passive tackle. My strategy has been to seek out A6 wormholes that let me avoid the cow pastures but they are random and rare. Some months I only see two and they aren't always useful. Sometimes taking you from one remote region to another, forcing you through a pipe, just from another spot in the game.

short version, you need two accounts, same corp, one to web you down.

If you are alone, just log off. Bumping doesn't cause aggression and you will emergency warp out. Stay logged off for 15 minutes, go make a sandwich or a cup of coffee, come back and resume your trip.

You can't log off safely in space if you're being targetted. Your ship will continue to sit in space until they un-target you and the 30 second countdown timer completes.

Until there's a valid counter to being bumped out of alignment indefinitely it's a bad mechanic, plain and simple. There's such a thing as balance. If one ship can bump another ship out of alignment for as long as they like, the victim ship needs to have some sort of mechanic to counter it. Just because the aggressor doesn't perceive it as a problem doesn't mean it isn't one