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MOVE ME ABUSE

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Romana Erebus
The Dikembe Mutombo Shotblocking Team
#1 - 2015-04-15 18:25:00 UTC
One again the moveme feature is being abused. The combat timer issue was fixed. Might want to fix dictors dropping bubbles and move me-ing out ass welll as lighting cyno's for hot drops and move-meing away and the gratuitous move-meing out of siege/triage cycles.
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
#2 - 2015-04-15 18:48:38 UTC
CCP do somthing with this by

making dictor/hic bubbles = weapons timer
launching cyno - weapons timer
this will prevent dropping bubbles and hotdropping and getting out bubbler/cynoer without consequences
Jonny Copper
The Cadre Arareb Foundation
#3 - 2015-04-16 06:13:47 UTC
While you are at it fix the ability for people to use Moveme feature right after logging in. Certain people take advantage of this by warping into CA1 right before DT and using moveme to move out of system while in login-warp after DT. Adding a timer where you cannot use moveme for a minute after logging in would fix this. Anyone who is using moveme for its intended purpose doesnt NEED to move within the first minute of logging in.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2015-04-16 08:41:04 UTC
Amak Boma wrote:
CCP do somthing with this by

making dictor/hic bubbles = weapons timer
launching cyno - weapons timer
this will prevent dropping bubbles and hotdropping and getting out bubbler/cynoer without consequences


Just to be clear, this is the opposite of what we would do if we decide to take action. We aren't going to make a bunch of special cases different from TQ because that makes Sisi an unreliable test environment, and unfortunately if abuse of these commands becomes too widespread, then we will have to seriously consider removing them.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2015-04-16 14:13:08 UTC
The test server is not for personal amusement, despite what some people think. OP, go back to station, replace your stuff, go back out. If you run out of isk, just self destruct something for the insurance money.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
#6 - 2015-04-16 18:15:04 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
The test server is not for personal amusement, despite what some people think. OP, go back to station, replace your stuff, go back out. If you run out of isk, just self destruct something for the insurance money.


well if you lose supercarrier/titan getting new one wont be possible in station so we would need speed up on buiding capitals on sisi
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-04-16 18:38:10 UTC
somebody does PvP in test-server???? Shocked

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Romana Erebus
The Dikembe Mutombo Shotblocking Team
#8 - 2015-04-17 04:06:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Romana Erebus
Jonny Copper wrote:
While you are at it fix the ability for people to use Moveme feature right after logging in. Certain people take advantage of this by warping into CA1 right before DT and using moveme to move out of system while in login-warp after DT. Adding a timer where you cannot use moveme for a minute after logging in would fix this. Anyone who is using moveme for its intended purpose doesnt NEED to move within the first minute of logging in.


yeah you see alotta that with people with supers dont you ?
Ether Mayaki
Ethereal Beings
#9 - 2015-04-17 07:28:49 UTC
Jonny Copper wrote:
While you are at it fix the ability for people to use Moveme feature right after logging in. Certain people take advantage of this by warping into CA1 right before DT and using moveme to move out of system while in login-warp after DT. Adding a timer where you cannot use moveme for a minute after logging in would fix this. Anyone who is using moveme for its intended purpose doesnt NEED to move within the first minute of logging in.


Said players could probably wait till massmoveme is up and then login weeks later. Or Just SD on station.
Jarod Garamonde
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#10 - 2015-04-17 22:54:48 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Amak Boma wrote:
CCP do somthing with this by

making dictor/hic bubbles = weapons timer
launching cyno - weapons timer
this will prevent dropping bubbles and hotdropping and getting out bubbler/cynoer without consequences


Just to be clear, this is the opposite of what we would do if we decide to take action. We aren't going to make a bunch of special cases different from TQ because that makes Sisi an unreliable test environment, and unfortunately if abuse of these commands becomes too widespread, then we will have to seriously consider removing them.


12 hour cooldown timer on "moveme" command.
Problem solved, problem staying solved.

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Tuea
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-04-18 00:34:41 UTC
Just disable the use of the moveme command while in the combat systems. Problem solved.
Cadre Arareb
The Cadre Arareb Foundation
#12 - 2015-04-18 02:13:40 UTC
Basically, we as testers, have 2 options.

1) Deal with it and enjoy it when we can.

2) Complain and loose the ability all together.

The supers will rise again!

Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#13 - 2015-04-18 11:59:46 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
somebody does PvP in test-server???? Shocked


Yeah I know, I always gasp in shock when I hear this, too.

People are weird.
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-04-19 01:28:38 UTC
Just put a cooldown on the moveme command.

Been around since the beginning.

Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
#15 - 2015-04-19 02:34:42 UTC
Romana Erebus wrote:
One again the moveme feature is being abused. The combat timer issue was fixed. Might want to fix dictors dropping bubbles and move me-ing out ass welll as lighting cyno's for hot drops and move-meing away and the gratuitous move-meing out of siege/triage cycles.


Isn't this the test server so losses are not that big of a deal?

Which then brings us to: who is lame enough to abuse the moveme command? Unless they are immature chuckle heads... in which case, what business do they have on the test server?

And, if the asset you have is being endangered by one of these people, what prevents you from using the moveme command to extradite yourself from their abuse?

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Agent Unknown
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-04-21 19:35:16 UTC
I personally only use moveme for the mass tests or in the future moving supers that other people have ordered without a move taking takes with fatigue.

You already can't use /moveme with a weapons timer. Yes, supers are very vulnerable in 6-C because they can be combat probed out before they even land from e-warp if they /moveme into the system ...but that's just the risk of having one. Nothing stops you from cynoing out of 6-C where it's safe (combat forbidden outside of 6-C/fd-mlj).

That said, if it's abused by super pilots so they never lose their shiny ship, shame on them.