Warfare & Tactics

B R E A K I N G N E W S,

Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements.
See you on da field ).

Shhhhhh - do it for the narrative.
Aslon doesn't seem to mind. Says he's having an absolute ball of a time and doesn't mind anyone else getting involved. I'm assuming any "declarations" that they would "not be taking aggressive actions" against you guys only refers to them hitting your assets. They're too small to do that anyway.

Did they clarify what they meant?

Policy Statement and OPSTRAT Updated. See post #19

In a panic at this announcement I checked Winmatars EvE Who activity rating "Probably Active"...

Fight the militia (either yourselves or batphone our enemies/neutrals) and we win - you demonstrate that we were right to take pre-emptive action

Don't fight and find yourself locked out of a significant portion of the Minmatar Militia community - we win

Negotiate and agree to our terms and we both win - we make decent members of the community out of you (hopefully) and swell our numbers

Leave and we win - your attempted return to Minnie FW has been stopped (likewise for going inactive)

Your choice.

We do not own the club it is true but between GOD5, HPLT and UK we provide the majority of active pilots to major militia operations, the majority of logistical support for moving ships deep into the Warzone, the majority of FC's, the majority of activity for the militia (kills) and the majority of high skill point/veteran pilots with ISK to burn on shiney things to help militia ops. You will be lucky to find a hub bash whose membership is less than 75%% made up of pilots from these groups. If the militia groups who have officially stayed out of this want to pick and choose who to have in fleet then they can but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Our position is reasonable to even give them terms to fly with us at all; the last time WINMATAR were in militia they AWOXed smaller groups because they assumed they were too big to stop. They refused all attempts at diplomatic resolution to the issues back then and no less than 14 militia groups declared war on them. That is what I call an Epic diplomacy fail carried out by utterly unreasonable people. Then they threw their lot in with Amarr militia and generally were obnoxious and unpleasant which is not a pre-requisite for being in Amarr Militia - there are plenty of Amarr who I actually get along fine with as players by the way.

Now they want to return to the militia, after they have alienated some of the Amarr even. With a narrative designed to provoke the Minnie militia (returning heros of the civil war and the Amarr Militia!), without attempts at courtesy such as contacting militia diplos to try and normalise relations. Without any apology or acknowledgement that they were wrong in their choices. Our three groups (plus REPUBLIC and Scrapheap Mojo I presume) are in no mood to deal with WINMATAR and Biohazard of the old days. We need convincing that the leadership behind these entities have changed, unfortunately they are demonstrating that they still have the same attitude that caused our response to their return. If they have indeed got the same attitude then we will gladly remain at war in order to discourage new militia guys becoming tarnished with their attitude.

Liafcipee9000 I assume you see a side to Aslon and Maximus that the rest of us do not, this 'war' is not aimed at you, you have seemed a reasonable guy when I have flown with you in the past. If you think that those guys deserve a place of respect in the Minmatar Militia then they need to show that they have changed and you need to step up to build bridges. So far we are vindicated in our actions.

Everyone is a traitor in the eyes of HPLT.
Or at least, that's what Agha would have you believe :D.

Take myself for example Nameira; I shoot anyone and everyone, no matter what their prior standings to me were. Once you lose the standings, there's no reason not to shoot each other, right?

There were ~reasons~ surrounding the discontinuation of blue standings between yourselves and Periphery, which you can always discuss with us elsewhere. To expect anything other than hostility from a neutral entity is interesting. Blue standings never last forever, so I suppose it's a lesson that everyone will learn at some point. Just think of people as content and you'll have no problems turning them into pods (or turning those into dust with the smartbomb wisdom )))) ).

The Periphery is always recruiting if you want to fly with the old guard again. Budding talent isn't stamped out, so we'd have no problems helping you with your FCing and the like.

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A militia is a community that fights side by side, with respect for every corp or alliance, every TLF new bro or soloist, every militia corp that has drifted off into inactivity but for a few members. All have the respect of their peers as they fight a common enemy in a way they choose with a level of integration they are comfortable with. Just like you cannot take Null sov (currently) without vast numbers and a capital wing you cannot play FW effectively if you don't want to co-exist with your community. You lack this respect for your fellow militia.

Perhaps if you did not see FW in terms of pets and overlords you would not be in this predicament. Is that what you thought the loyalist Minnie's were in the civil war? Pets? How did that go for you? Let us know if you change your outlook.

ITT people who don't know what the word hypocrisy means and aspies. legit need to chill lol

That being said:






Congrats I actually cringed so hard I killed myself and all of dng have followed you don't need to fight us anymore.



Funny coming from a nobody currently in a nobody alliance. Weren't you talking about hypocrisy in this same thread?

Btw you're meant to clickbait in everypost you make cause ur forums r **** :%)



so is blaming DT something you do when you lose or just something you do when you think you might lose




To close,

WINMATAR tried to offer mutual T5 farming rights to DNG in exchange for us letting them farm at T5 also so we can all make isk. Pretty hilarious that Aslon thinks he's in any kind of position to be offering that sort of thing.
It also reminds me of my friend Stalking Mantis, R I P

Oldguard minmatar are probably gonna get their **** pushed in anyway.


So yay, looks like 24/7 talwar blobs are coming back if Aslon can keep up with recruiting.


This whole thing is pretty sad.

Good luck to both sides but you're both too spastic to make the thing interesting at this point


btw did half a dozen periphery guys seriously make you guys call off the gulm assault? xaxxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa

I dont know, I'm finding it pretty hilarious so far. Its like two one legged men trying to have an asskicking contest.