EVE New Citizens Q&A

There were 2500 wormhole system before rhea I think they only added like 101 more but I'm not sure.

Wormhole space systems are fixed and definite but like you mentioned the wormholes themselves change a lot. There is a lot of learn about the specifics of wormhole IDs and sig IDs and the "J" number which is used for system names. It is all out there and would be silly for me to duplicate. If you are interested do some searching the info is not hard to find.

You do not display in local chat in a wormhole. Some wormhole systems are pretty safe, much safer than low sec but not nearly as safe and some known space null sec systems.

There are 6 classes of wormhole C1's are the easiest and you pretty much need a T2 or T3 cruiser at the least if you want to solo. C6 wormholes need fleets or RR BSs at a minimum and many people use cap ship fleets.

I'll see if I can cover some of the bits missed above.



For killing the sleepers, a wide range of ships are possible depending on the class of the WH. For C1s & C2s, most of he sites can be ran with a well skilled, omni-tanked BC. For a long time, drakes were everywhere, and they are still quite popular for the lower-rated WH sites. You'll find that T3s are quite popular and effective as well.

For PVP, the Stratios and Cloaky Proteus are quite popular solo hunting hulls. Stealth bombers can be used as well, but have a limited number of ships they can engage. All the T3s see use in PVP as well, but less so in the case of the Legion.

Cloaks, especially Cov Ops cloaks, are pretty much required, though you can now use mobile depots to change your fitting as needed.

BlOps are a different beast altogether and more of a Null Sec/Low Sec gang ship used to drop bombers, recons, etc. on unsuspecting prey.

Wormhole space (w-space) is permanent, 2000 or so solar systems, all with planets, moons, no stations, no gates, and ever-changing wormholes connecting between the systems and to various semi-random normal solar systems (known space, k-space).

What we typically do is:

- use probes to find wormholes

- look up the wormhole code to see where it may connect

- enter the wormhole, and note the system name (it's a number that starts with J - the J-number)

- look up the j-number for a list of stats, and to see what the player-submitted PVP activity may have been in the last 24 hours

- bookmark the wormhole so you can return, and proceed to d-scan or probe the various planets / moons for deployed POS starbases and planetary Customs POCOs. This will give you a list of the corporations that may be permanent residents, contact info for the CEO, etc.

- use probes to find other players, other wormholes, and various other exploration sites. The local chat channel does NOT display who else is in the system unless they talk, so your only intel is d-scan and probes.


As far as the sleeper NPCs that inhabit the space, they have improved AI compared to mission NPC's and will warp jam, target-jam, switch targets based on threat, and generally deal high damage. There are guides out there for what ships to bring to kill sleepers; their strength depends on the class of the wormhole space, and the tactics may be affected by the solar-system-wide effects caused by the local star.

Loads tougher; think Elite Cruisers from certain Lv 4 missions plus they hit like a ton of bricks. They absolutely delight in eating drones so keep that in mind. I've seen people in the past use drones simply to get the sleepers to target switch away from their combat ship.

You might take a look at THIS DRAKE KM to get an idea of the sort of basic PVE ship for running sites. The T2 rigs are probably not needed for C1 & C2 work. I'm not sure whether an AB would help that much to mitigate some of the incoming damage. If this were a day-tripping PVE-er, I'd recommend a mobile depot anchored somewhere off grid if possible to fit a cloak. Pull it back into cargo hold frequently to avoid it being scanned down.


In my opinion, not any more dangerous though there's a greater chance of losing both ship and pod due to bubbles. I roam through Caldari space and low sec here is only very rarely empty. There is almost always someone hunting you. Many WH spaces are quiet and with the correct degree of caution, it's possible for you to do PVE activities unmolested for quite a long spell before someone gets you. They will get you though, just a matter of time and the cost of doing business.

Wormholes 101


What an absurdly over-generalized point of view.

If I mine in C2 wormhole, how strong will be NPC, that will spawn after first 15 minutes? I mean - can a cruiser class ship deal with them? Or even Procurer with T2 drones?

Agreed.

I should probably add a qualifier here. While I do believe on average WH space is safer than low sec that is mostly due to an upfront investment of time in assessing the situation that typically is not done ( at least not to that degree ) in low sec. So if one were to just jump into WH space and act the same as they would in low sec then that would be extremely risky.

So when I say low sec is more dangerous what I mean is that it is my opinion that if you jump into a low sec system you are far more likely to jump into a gate camp than you are to jump into a camped worm hole. That if you are ratting in a wormhole then you've likely looked around to find a not so active WH system with lots of sites and done your homework to make sure it's reasonably safish to rat in where as if you are in a low sec system ratting and a local warps through and see's a new character in system there is a good chance that he is going to come looking for you and he does not need probes to find you. However in low sec you do have the added security of knowing when he enters system but unless you are docking up every time someone new enters local ( which could make it difficult to get anything done ) then you are relying on similar D scan result to keep yourself from getting blown up.

Now that is coming from me, someone like yourself that lives in low sec and is one of the 'locals" that I am talking about then for you I am sure it is more safe in low sec. At least in one of your home systems. Similarly when I say that sov null is more safe than low or WH space of course I am talking about a system that I am familiar with and blue to the locals. However if GM were to tell me that he was going to teleport me to some random system and I had to pick a sec status and it could not be high sec then it would be low for sure. Mostly due to being closer to high sec and no bubbles and the fact that I'd have to go through low most likely anyway to get to high sec but still.

- if i understand, the wormhole space itself is permanent. Its the gates in and out that keep collapsing  and then refreshing to new locations in k-space. So one could stay in a given w-space for ever. Is that right?

W-space systems are persistent, they do not move. The wormholes that lead between them and k-space will constantly change at different times depending on two factors:

1. What type of wh it is
2. How much stuff has been through it

- when scaning, wh are given a signature name. Is it always the same for a given w-space given that gates in and out keep changing? So can you find another access point to the same w-space if you keep scanning around for it (low chance I understand)

Wormholes will always have two "names", one side will always be named K162. K162 denotes that the wormhole was opened from the other side and someone may have scanned it or it could have just timed out and popped out on it's own.

You can tell quite a lot about a wormhole without a K162 name though, for example I know that H900 will always lead me to a C5 system.

- what type of ship do you bring to wh space? Are cloacking device mandatory to hope survival for more then a couple minutes? Is this where the Black Op ships come into play?

As with anything in EVE, it entirely depends on what you are doing.

- how tough are the NPC compared to missions?

at least 3 times as hard, if not more. Most mission NPCs do not scram, web and neut you. Though you only get scrammed in C4 space and above.

- how dangerous is w-space compared to the insanity of low sec?

Extremely dangerous as someone can just pop out of nowhere and blow yo ass up. In k-space you get a massive telegraphed warning when someone enters system (hi local) and gates don't move or connect to random systems.

It's all to do with numbers and local I think.

Wormhole space is far safer in a general sense than lowsec, simply because every wormhole system doesn't have people waiting actively (almost around the clock) looking for pvp. Lowsec geneally does and you won't need to travel far to find a fight of some kind. You want action on demand, fights until you run out of ships - go to lowsec.

You want to stalk a dozen holes, scan for hours, creep around under cloak and hunt someone farming to kill you go to wormholes. You might still spend hours and find absolutely nobody.