Player Features and Ideas Discussion

A GTX 750 sells for around 100 dollars, you can grab one for $50 second hand. If you're incapable of affording something as basic as a mid level PC with an average graphics card and insist on running your old Pentium II then you have bigger problems than worrying about getting yourself into an new EvE.

Like most game mmo's sequels the older game usually continues to run for years after the sequel anyway.

This sounds like simple whinging because you're too poor or tight to upgrade your stupidly slow computers.



Change your gates. People are predictable. There will always been streams of idiots who choose the easiest route. That's how Jita came about.

Hardly straw man. The idea that a games developer should hold off developing a new version of its flagship game because some of its current subscribers run turds for PCs is ludicrous.

There are literally millions of former EvE players that would likely resub just to try out a new EvE, hundreds of millions of potential new customers with decent rigs who may and a few hundred thousand current subs with only a % with crap pcs.

I know who I'd be developing for. Hint - not you poor unemployed people :)

Those specifics would really be up to the developers. But lets say you had an interdiction on a ship and you're flying next to it, I guess given you can drop it out of warp you could probably scan it too, so you scan it, drop it from warp, get suicided, your gang warps in and ganks it...

That pre-supposes that I have to interdict someone in order to scan them.

If interdicting doesn't flag a Concord response, then every man and his alt will interdict freighters without consequence. They won't worry about scanning or ganking. They'll do it because it's a legitimate form of gameplay. It's sanctioned griefing.

Now, if it does flag a response, then you've eliminated the cargo scanning profession from the game.


But I had an extra thought on your warping proposal. If a mid-point entrance gate will warp you to an exit gate, there's no reason why the end-gate can't warp you to a station. In-system warps are in-system warps. This means when I undock my freighter from Jita 4-4, set my autopilot to the Roden station in Iyen Ourstam, and enter warp, I will remain in warp until I land 15km off the station.

Let me write it out in detail:

• Be in Jita 4-4
• Set autopilot to the Roden station in Iyen-Oursta
• Undock
• Enable autopilot.
• In-system warp to 15km from the Perimeter gate.
• Slowboat to the gate
• Intersystem-warp to Perimeter
• Transition to in-system warp to the Iyen-Oursta gate
• Transition to inter-system warp to Iyen-Oursta
• Transition to in-system warp to 15km from Roden station
• Slowboat to station

When will my war targets see me enter system? How will they know which gate I entered from? How will they know where I've gone? I'm in warp the entire time. If they want to catch me, they have to camp every path between every gate in a system. I could enter from any gate and warp to any other gate. In Perimeter, a system with 5 gates, that's 10 paths. That is a hugely increased logistical burden on people declaring war. Currently, you only need to watch four gates. You're talking about 250% of the current requirement.

Convince me why your warping mechanic isn't bad. I still have hope for interdiction, but that's because Elite: Dangerous is arcade fun and this is a clear carbon-copy from it. Even the name is the same. Remember, Interdiction works in E:D because you can still run from the police if you gank someone. Do that in Eve, and you'll get yourself a ban.

Actually speaking for myself and I suspect most here we want the game to evolve and improve on an incremental basis. You Know? Like all real businesses do unless they have a death wish?

Wanting things to change is fine but it will be gradual as no sane company throws away everything they have to switch to a new untried product which is exactly what the proposed Eve II would be. If CCP numbered their releases in the same way any major software manufacturer does we would be at EvE V or VI most likely.

Cry more about how there's an MMO out there that's actually accessible for older hardware. If you want a flight sim, go play a goddamned flight sim. Stop asking to have what I like taken away from me because you can't figure out that you're playing the wrong game.

I'd recommend Kerbel Space program. Want simulation its got simulation.


Well that and worth noting no real simulator I have played had truly impressive earth shattering graphics. Emphasis usually on the flight sim mechanics really. The meat and potatoes for it I find.

Sims I have played in the past if you crank up the realism real high....you should be focused more on not flying the plane wrong and not pixel peeping to borrow the term from photography. Mix a few high risk moves, exceed tolerance of the plane in real life simulated in a game, see what fun things can go wrong. I know in mid air stalls I wasn't going you know...they really need to make the ground more realistic. I was thinking man this falcon (one of my all time fave sims) is doing a really good impersonation of a lawn dart and I need to change that fast.

Define "fun"..

Your fun is not my fun. That is the purpose of a sandbox. Everyone can play it however they want. ED looks cool, but underneath the flashy graphics, it seems to lack a lot of substance, at least at this moment.

EVE is a very psychological game. Thats why ive been playing for years. I love making a ship that people underestimate and kill them and their gang with. I enjoy outsmarting my opponents with the fit/skill... not just slapping the biggest guns and dogfighting. I still havent done most things, and am not anywhere close to 100m SP.

I run a decent PC and can run EVE at max settings no problem. It looks good enough for the gameplay i get out of it. I play eve for the strategy and gameplay, not because i want to see shiny things.

Stargates add strategy and choke points. With thousands of systems, if one is blocked by a camp, find a way around it, or bust through if youve got the right ship/fit for the job. Removing them loses a layer of gameplay and dumbs it down imo.

You ship is completely capable is heading towards another start system on it's own power.

There's a slight issue with the fact that space is ABSOLUTELY CRAZY ENORMOUS. We are talking years or months to travel between systems in an hype-spacial velocity rigged interceptor with infinite capacitor.

In that same issue of space being ABSOLUTELY CRAZY ENORMOUS, artificial choke points are required in order to force points of interaction in a level of space so vast that by the time the light from the starting point of your journey reaches the end point, your great great grandchildren might be learning how to drive a spaceship.

Oh and there's those ever so tiny issues of gates acting as transitions between what is honestly individual instances for each system. Seamless movement can mean hidden loading periods of non interaction, but the load screen is there in function even if it is not there on your screen.

Plus chucking all of the eve lore out the window, not that I care too much about that.

They provide choke points.