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Neural Overload
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-12-26 08:06:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Neural Overload
I think I have just figured out what frustrates me the most about Eve Online...

I spent 30 seconds wishing everyone on local and corp chat a very safe and happy holiday season and literally within the same amount of time I was called every name in the book. I don't care where you are from, what color you are, what your orientation is or what you believe...

The lack of mutual respect is staggering.

I'm not asking you to respect my game play style or my beliefs... I'm not asking you to not blow up my ship or to overlook the risks I accepted when I activated my account. I am asking you to respect the fact that on this end of the keyboard I am a human being who works hard and chooses to actively participate in this game and in this forum so much so that I pay for that privilege.

You want to know what will kill Eve online... new players continually being subjected to that.

Even arrogance has its place within Eve... but c'mon people you want Eve Online to last as Ive read in various posts... get a grip.

* First and foremost thank you for all of the positive and mature input. The responses have been greatly appreciated. After having read some responses I would like to add that this is not about a personal reaction to my wishes of yule tide joy... this is about the community at large. The acceptance of new players to add and who can add to an already great game and the basic courtesy we are all due as individuals. Already I have seen responses that can't even respect an opinion. What does that say about long term players. What does that say about the longevity of the game as a whole?
You want to think I am crying over spilled milk go right ahead but respectfully you are demonstrating that very same narrow mindedness and short term thinking I am describing. The lack of basic mutual respect is only a symptom of that.*
How2FoldSoup
Hull Tanking Elitists
#2 - 2011-12-26 08:09:04 UTC
As of 8 minutes ago, Merry Christmas :)

It's horrible that we have to accept that the majority of eve players are idiots but sometimes the truth hurts

Fly safe o7

Soup
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#3 - 2011-12-26 08:12:07 UTC
You didnt give them any presents. How much in return are you looking for?

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Solhild
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-12-26 08:28:22 UTC
Compliments of the Season Big smile
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#5 - 2011-12-26 08:32:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ioci
How2FoldSoup wrote:
As of 8 minutes ago, Merry Christmas :)

It's horrible that we have to accept that the majority of eve players are idiots but sometimes the truth hurts

Fly safe o7

Soup


I don't agree. Most are just playing a game. The noisy ones are tards. It's about 5% I'd say.

OP: What system were you in? Jita? You see Jita local, you are suprised?

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#6 - 2011-12-26 08:34:19 UTC
Our alliance got a wardec as a pressie from some griefers.
Last night, they gave us 3 badgers, 2 canes, 1 armageddon and a pod.

We gave them lots of ammo and the best holiday wishes.

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2011-12-26 08:48:27 UTC
"Waaaah the bad mans in the internet spaceship game was mean to me"

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-12-26 09:34:33 UTC
Neural Overload wrote:
I think I have just figured out what frustrates me the most about Eve Online...

I spent 30 seconds wishing everyone on local and corp chat a very safe and happy holiday season and literally within the same amount of time I was called every name in the book. I don't care where you are from, what color you are, what your orientation is or what you believe...

The lack of mutual respect is staggering.

I'm not asking you to respect my game play style or my beliefs... I'm not asking you to not blow up my ship or to overlook the risks I accepted when I activated my account. I am asking you to respect the fact that on this end of the keyboard I am a human being who works hard and chooses to actively participate in this game and in this forum so much so that I pay for that privilege.

You want to know what will kill Eve online... new players continually being subjected to that.

Even arrogance has its place within Eve... but c'mon people you want Eve Online to last as Ive read in various posts... get a grip.

* First and foremost thank you for all of the positive and mature input. The responses have been greatly appreciated. After having read some responses I would like to add that this is not about a personal reaction to my wishes of yule tide joy... this is about the community at large. The acceptance of new players to add and who can add to an already great game and the basic courtesy we are all due as individuals. Already I have seen responses that can't even respect an opinion. What does that say about long term players. What does that say about the longevity of the game as a whole?
You want to think I am crying over spilled milk go right ahead but respectfully you are demonstrating that very same narrow mindedness and short term thinking I am describing. The lack of basic mutual respect is only a symptom of that.*





in every game retards exist, kids with no life ,thinking they can say everything
you have to life with it

anyway ,happy holidays

R.S.I2014
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#9 - 2011-12-26 09:41:06 UTC
Merry Happy!

Yeah many of them suck
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Reticulated Spline
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-12-26 09:43:58 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
"Waaaah the bad mans in the internet spaceship game was mean to me"


Holy crap your avatar is ugly! Fun fact: ad-block lets me block your face. :)
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-12-26 12:20:48 UTC
Where were you? Rancer? Ive never found people to be that asshatted.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Hienz Doofenshmirtz
Outsourced Manufacturing
#12 - 2011-12-26 12:42:42 UTC
Happy Boxing day

and other than trying to kill you, the people in Rancer are rather nice

www.dust514stats.com do you know?
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-12-26 12:57:32 UTC
Neural Overload wrote:
Stuff

Well, if you wanted me to respect you as a human being, writing this post didn't put you on the fast track to that goal. Just super sayin'.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-12-26 12:58:47 UTC
It's unfortunate, but because of the nature of this game it tends to attract some of the lowest and illest of personalities. They tend to be loud and usually having something to prove (internet bravado, asshattery, need for attention... who knows :\). They're out to ruin anyone's day so they can feel good about themselves. You just have to to try and turn them off.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you and the rest :)!

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-12-26 13:08:30 UTC
Neural Overload wrote:
I spent 30 seconds wishing everyone on local and corp chat a very safe and happy holiday season and literally within the same amount of time I was called every name in the book.

unless you were afk-cloaking in some carebears system i can't believe in this story Big smile

I have never had the same for 2 years in Eve. Nor i answered bad to greeting of someone.....

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
White Tree
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-12-26 13:27:56 UTC
As I have said many times before, normals can't hack it on the Internet.

Former member of CSM6.
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-12-26 14:34:03 UTC
Welcome to the Internet OP, I suspect your stay will be a short and unplesant one
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-26 14:54:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Meh...I keep my comments regarding holidays in private chat or corp/alliance. This year the greeting on Vent from me to all my alliance mates was "Merry ******* Christmas dipshits!"...they took it well. I got no name calling back and no harrassment other than the typical "your momma" stuff. On the other hand...had I posted that in local anywhere...it likely would have resulted in a temp ban by a Dev and deservedly so.

Either way...you are right. People suck...most people have no grasp whatsoever of others feelings, beliefs or good intentions.

Happy Holidays!

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Ghoest
#19 - 2011-12-26 16:03:18 UTC
Neural Overload wrote:
stuff....



If you expected positive feedback in local - then your problems exceed the games problems.

Wherever You Went - Here You Are
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#20 - 2011-12-26 16:41:34 UTC
I'd totally agree with OP, having played a fair few MMO's in my time, the one answer that comes up most often I believe when 'why do you love...?' threads are posted is 'the community'.

Why is EVE diffrent?

1. Well, in all games I'vs played, a good percentage of PVPers feel the need for 'smack talking' all and sundery because they seem to think it makes them 'hard'. In reality proper hard men (and I know a few my best mate used to run one of the biggest security firms in Liverpool) tend to be normal people who won't give you grief unless you stupid enough to cross them. Therefore Pvpers tend to come across as childish bullies to everyone else.

2. 'Welcome to the intrawebs' some people have said , to this I would say considering that a lot of the behaviour on these forums would quickly lead to warnings and bans on other forums on the web, that some of the problem can be laid at CCP's door for not having the testicalar fortitude to moderate this forum to a reasonable standard.

So what you 'carebear noob' I'm sure a few of you are thinking.

Well playing an MMO without a good community to interact with is not really much diffrent than playing a single player game. Its often the personal bonds created between guildies that keep people logging in. This being the case can you imagine the retention level EVE could achieve if this was a supportive and pleasent community to be a part of.

TLDR

In essence the 'Brine Vampires' drive poeple from the game depriving themselves of 'victims' , PvEers of buddies, CCP of subs and generally making EVE a pale shadow of what it could be. Sad

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
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