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Ship suggestion for blitizing L4 missions - preferably Caldari/Amarr
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Aya Silverye
MRERR
#21 - 2015-04-17 17:45:05 UTC
@Duke Karas - Never realized that Armageddon was a missile boat - i thought it was also a typical laser boat like the Apoc and Abaddon. Just checked it now lol. Can't believe CCP completely changed a ship from laser to missile. Thanks for the heads up. I am going to see if any other race ship got changed as well.

By the way - do you have any fits for this new missile Armageddon?
Jonn Duune
OpSec.
Wrong Hole.
#22 - 2015-04-19 15:06:20 UTC
I know marauders are a long way off, but you can also look at a golem eventually, with cruises you can hit out past 200km for decent dps, or torps you can blap stuff within 40-50km. and with the MJD, you can move yourself around decently quick without burning cap for a MWD

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#23 - 2015-04-19 17:40:25 UTC
Aya Silverye wrote:
@Duke Karas - Never realized that Armageddon was a missile boat - i thought it was also a typical laser boat like the Apoc and Abaddon. Just checked it now lol. Can't believe CCP completely changed a ship from laser to missile. Thanks for the heads up. I am going to see if any other race ship got changed as well.

By the way - do you have any fits for this new missile Armageddon?


more of a drone boat that can use missiles or guns. I'd mostly fit for drones and treat the missiles as a bonus.


as for the golem comment: from what I remember at 40-50km you are doing more damage with cruise. Just looked in EFT and with 1x speed, 1x flight time rigs + bastion looks like faction torps hit just over 50km. Javs hit out to about 80, but do less damage than cruise. then there are all the application issues you get with torps. So I'd say torps are viable in many missions, but in general I'd probably lean to cruise.

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Aya Silverye
MRERR
#24 - 2015-04-19 19:43:17 UTC
@John Duune - It has great DPS and will make life easy but sadly gankers population seems to have risen greatly. Anything flown by a PvE'er which costs around 900-1000mil is shot down immediately. So I am forced to keep my ships cheap enough that it's not worth their effort. In that regard, the reduction of Pirate Faction BS is a serious blessing.

Thats why I am searching really hard for good fits that cost less than 800mil total. Also, cruise missiles seem to do more DPS and damage application than torps. Had my friend fit both types and run Sansha Forsaken Hub. Cruises are better for PvE. Torps have been nerfed badly.

@Chainsaw Plankton - Ah thats sad - I thought we finally had a Missile/armor ship. Turns out it's more like a rattlesnake. I am starting to realize that regardless of ship/weapons platform - Drones are the most important for PvE.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2015-04-26 05:02:45 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
If you want to blitz missions then there are a few golden rules.

The mach is king, nothing will beat it.

While you can blitz with missiles and drones turret boats will be far better.

If you want to stick to an amarr ship then the Paladin or Nightmare are the ones to aim for long term. Short tem the Apoc is a solid boat, trick to using it is to blap the frigates first with use pulse lasers or fit a LMJD and go with beams and range.
Aya Silverye
MRERR
#26 - 2015-04-26 07:54:03 UTC
@ baltec1 - hmm....I am currently trying out a Artycane in missions and it's okay. Skilling up for a Nightmare and going to try it out later. Thank you for the advice.
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-04-26 14:14:52 UTC
Aya Silverye wrote:
@ baltec1 - hmm....I am currently trying out a Artycane in missions and it's okay. Skilling up for a Nightmare and going to try it out later. Thank you for the advice.

Paladin dps manages to match nightmare dps if you take marauder to V (lol) but even at IV at least you get better range tankiness and ewar immunity which is priceless.
Aya Silverye
MRERR
#28 - 2015-04-27 18:16:33 UTC
@Hakaari Inkuran True - better tank and ewar immunity but the price tag is too high for me - not to mention the skilling time. A fully fit Nightmare which can be used for anom/incursion is only about 900 mil total compared to atleast 1 billion for marauder hulls. I don't want to fly something I can't afford to lose.
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