Player Features and Ideas Discussion

OP should be banned from the forums.

EVE-Online is the type of game that you keep updating... you don't close it and start something else...

Like you mentioned in a previous post, they have taken on 3 other projects and failed miserably, which is why I think it is unrealistic. Not that it can't be done, but the sure bet is they screw up.

They should understand the industry at this point. Their ancient code (relatively speaking) will only carry them another couple years. Maybe five. After that this game will be mostly dead. I love Eve, don't get me wrong, but the 1 second server tick system and a 15-18 year old platform simply cannot compete with what is out and what will come out in this time frame.

What they SHOULD do is design a new game, most likely a sequel to Eve like you suggest, it can be farther in the future or whatever, while continuing to apply minor update / balance changes to the current game.

I find it hilarious that their entire team is dedicated to Eve, yet the changes they make with each update are laughable. Oh, 5% less falloff for bouncers, no more lighting cynos right next to force fields.....dumb **** that should be doable by a small group of people dedicated to Eve.

Anyway, Godspeed, but it probably won't happen...

I'm not talking about Valkyrie. I'm talking about WiS, WoD, and Dust.

Dust was, by any metric you choose to use, a complete failure. Most of their dev staff was laid off, and it only took them this side of two YEARS to turn a profit? You cannot call that a success, especially not when it's confined to a now retired console.

A long time ago in an MMORPG far away, SOE released Everquest 2, the sequel to the original Everquest which was getting quite long in the tooth at that point. Everquest was the big game at the time and SOE was sure they would all migrate to the new EQ2 and all would be right in the world. Instead what happened is that SOE gave all those EQ players a choice - go to EQ2, or go somewhere else. And as it turns out they mostly went to play World of Warcraft, which was new at the time and got a ginormous boost from all those Everquest players migrating over.

Ever since then, MMO devs have (generally) been loathe to crank out sequels since the act of releasing a sequel destroys the loyalty of their entire playerbase to the existing game and there's no guarantee they'll go play the new game. Player loyalty makes or breaks these games - there's a reason all the biggest MMOs are older than dirt despite numerous high-profile and very expensive launches the last 5 years or so.

Actually that's not entirely true. Everquest II was successful and made enough money for Sony to release 14 expansions. Not EVE expansions but actual expansions.

WOW released and took a lot of the profits from EQ and other fantasy based games but in terms of EvE clones there are no analogous competitors so it would be extremely unlikely that that would occur on a large scale as it did with the development and release of EQ2 and WoW.

I'll also go out on a limb here and predict that the people most likely to cross over to an EVE II would be the power players rather than bears looking to escape the strangle hold those power players hold in the current EvE. Nothing more tempting to Goon types than a fresh new arena to conquer and fight for.

Listen, I have to chime in on this...


Idk what OP wants... but when I think of "EVE 2", I am by NO MEANS asking for a separate game that starts from scratch.

I would like to see an "EVE 2"... as in a brand new physics/game engine for EVE, but the servers and players still have the same items, stats, saved progress, etc.

A brand new game (technically), but it's still EVE, it's still Tranquility, and I'm still Leto Aramaus with billions of ISK and millions of SP... but ships are real destructible objects, stations are to scale, solar systems are fully rendered 3D environments that actually exist outside of your grid... you get the idea, ya know? A game engine that isn't 12 years old... that's what I'm sayin'.

Systems/Zones breaks up load, which reduced the impact of 1000,2000,3000+ people battles that sometimes do happen, and when they do, last several hours. I'm sure all of Eve wants to pay that price right?

Your gate warping idea would do the following:
1. Reduce interaction with other players for PVP content.
2. All for mass stacking of people into one area, producing these massive lag events that no economically priced server cluster could handle.
3. Would destroy the concept of "roaming"
4. Would destroy faction warfare
5. Would destroy player ran freighter services
6. Would increase the negative effects of Titans/Supers/capital fleets on the game.
7. Stop put an end to transport missions in highsec.
8. Increase the need for large coalitions to exist.

Yes. Absolutely.

Are you not willing?

If CCP said today... "Okay guys look, we can build EVE 2.0 which is going to be Star Citizen but better and with EVE ships... but if we do, for the next two years, we won't be releasing any more stupid gimmicks, T3-game-breaking-ships, or dumb sh*t like PI or hacking minigames... we can only give you patches, fixes, and minor balance changes... until the new engine is complete."

You wouldn't want that?

Yea, I guess not... I mean all the AWESOME content we've been getting over the past 10 years has been so good! Like... all the UI re-designs (over and over and over), and T3s! Wow T3s are so good to have in the game, glad we got those instead of a new engine. Oh and Faction Warfare, PI, ****-poor redesigns of Bounty and Criminal systems, Wormholes, some new Wormholes, a new special named Wormhole, some new NPCs, some other new NPCs, some new ships, some graphics updates, oh and don't forget the UI redesign, again...

Edit: Also... bullsh*t. "All major development changes" need to stop so they can design a whole new game from scratch eh?

Well they've already been building whole new games with OUR subscription money. Dust, Legion, Valkyrie... what are these? Massive projects that obviously take millions of dollars and thousands of hours away from EVE development, and yet we, the paying loyal customers, get nothing. Dust was for PS console peasants only, and the other two games exist in Youtube videos and our dreams.

So instead of these garbage games that nobody wanted anyway, we could have had EVE 2.0 by now, without sacrificing any of the updates to EVE we have had (content-only updates, ez). If CCP HAD sacrificed even MORE time and money from EVE 1.0... the EVE 2.0 engine could be out, stable, and blowing Star Citizen out of the water by now.

Instead we still have "Spheres (with spaceship shaped textures) In Space" ... a 10+ year old game engine that has severely boring gameplay.

No reason they couldn't port all relevant game information to a new, more stable game.

Other than that, the stopping of game development might be problematic, who knows though. Do we really need to keep spamming out more superior ships to improve the game? People come and go as they satisfy themselves and their goals in eve and I think thats just how it is. At a certain point, barring fixing bugs or adjusting balance in very tiny increments, a game can be said to good and complete as is.

Sure, but a 2 year old could drive illeagally. In order for the statement to mean anything, there would have to be a viable context for assuming the child's age, i.e. legal driving age. It seems fairly important as it was the predication for the entire argument of "Eve is old". As the lowest legal driving age I'm aware for any country on the planet is 14, then either I am unaware of a lower age somewhere, there is another vehicle related context that would make a driving 11 year old meaningful, or the OP's argument crumbles under the weight of it's own reference point.