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I didn't know where to put this, but I got some questions regarding this program:

Is PLH (Pirate's Little Helper) safe to use, in the sense it not being able to hack me?

Is it allowed to be used, by CCP, is there any official post about this program?

Does it in any way, grab my info, and store it on the internet, or anything of that sort?

Thanks for reading :3

Yes,It Wont, Yes,yes, Probably not, It can, yes, wouldn't worry

You're welcome.

You copy pasting their FAQ, does not answer my question, though I appreciate your "effort"...

You could've just said, yes, or no, on one or either question...

This is the part that matters:

Good news: you don't need to, I explicitly allow the decompilation of PLH to check that it does not do anything you would not expect from it!
If you cannot read code, you can also just black box check the server communication e.g. with Fiddler.

You can check for yourself, just because I or anyone else say it is fine doesn't mean a damn thing. For all you know I could be the one who wrote the program and am trying to mislead you.

Hi, I'm the author of PLH.
As mentioned on the page. PLH does not do anything you wouldn't expect from it. It does not contain any malicious parts and as already mentioned in this thread you can check that yourself.

There is no official post and CCP does not "whitelist" any programs (and if you think about it, how could they), in my experience you won't get any real answer if create a petition asking if any program is allowed. PLH is on the official fansite list of CCP, but that does not guarantee its validity.

But, I have a few things to consider which hopefully can put your mind at ease a bit:
- It does not violate the EULA/ToS. If you are unsure about it, you have to read them yourself to confirm that.
- The "license" of it does not guarantee anything, with the solely exception that it isn't used to gather intel on anyone.
- I guarantee that if CCP rules anything PLH does as illegal in the future, I will immediately remove that feature. I made that publicly clear on multiple occasions.
- There are CCP devs using/knowing PLH who also know my stance on cheating and that I do not want PLH to be in any violation of the EULA/ToS.

No, it does not grab/store any info on the internet. As mentioned, you can check that yourself.

@Eldwinn I'm sorry that you think so negative about PLH. My primary intention is to increase the amounts of fights you get as solo small gang player and from own experience I can say that it does accomplish it. You say that it lowers the skill ceiling too much, but imho you are giving PLH a bit too much credit here.
Especially in lowsec/FW the DScan Tool is not overly useful. Most of the time 5 degree scans on plexes etc. are faster and more accurate (and don't require any dscan skill). It's usefulness in low is mostly to quickly assess if a ship is under a POS, imho.

But, i'm of course interested in discussing what others do not like about it (tbh this is the first time I hear something like this).
Because my view is limited and maybe it does degrade the game in a way I didn't think about, which I, of course, do not want.
If you are interested, please try contacting me in game to discuss this.

@eldwin
PLH just told me you are a dirty cyno bait 2015-04-16. no wonder you don't like it :P

it is for us solo and small gang players primarly and it does its job well!

Danke Rischwa :)

It seams the tool is not opensource, so a thirdparty validation of the source code is not possible. You have to trust the developer or not use the tool. I don't critizice that the tool is not open source i just state a simple fact. It is the choice of the developer and if you want to use his tool you have to respect that choice.

First time i hear about this tool but then i never been a fan of using 3rd party tools.This one however looks rrrrreally usefull for the new guys who want to try out low-sec pvp but lack a ton of experience.

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1) So in your country it is not allowed to decompile a suspected malware to analyze the code? That seams rather strange. Anyway, since I don't always ask the authorities if I want to decompile a piece of software on my computer I don't really need your permission to do it. And if I find something shady, do you really think someone will have a problem with the decompilation if it turns out you produce malware? The only thing where this is actually a legal problem is if I use it to gain knowledge about the inner workings of your software and use that knowledge in a competing software. So your permission for decompilation is useless and redundant.

2) I'm glad I can now compile all my shity structured and documented code and decompile them to get a readable well structured code. Yes, you can probably deduce the inner workings of a program out of a decompiled binary, but it is hardly a good comparison to full access to the original documented and versioned source code. If you really care about people inspecting your work and fixing bugs, decompiling is probably the worst way to ensure they are able to do something about it. Also there are ways to obfuscate malicious code in the result of a decompilation, why do you think it is so hard to detect malware?

3) There are mutiple ways for a well crafted program to escape detection with common tools for black box testing. I mean if you know them you can just stop doing bad things if they are running.. Even you mentioning this raises some red flags.

I just tried to point out that using closed source software has some major risks because a serious third party evaluation is not possible. This is not my personal opinion, this is common knowledge in the software industry. Why do you think crypto software is required to be opensource (this does not automatically mean free software) ?

You can pretend how save your software is as much as you want, but don't tell me I am a liar if I point out that no one else really is able to verify your claim, which is actually true.