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Why don't goons start taking down low and high sec POS's?
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Nyx Na'gorg
Doomheim
#61 - 2011-12-24 14:21:03 UTC
If i recall back during the days of "Prophet Karttoon" Jihadswarm cleared out parts of lowsec.

Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim.
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#62 - 2011-12-24 14:39:25 UTC
Boris Ginnungagap wrote:
If they really want to shake down eve, why don't they start attacking these POS's?

They can field the dps, even in highsec (unless too negative sec status), they can also fund war decs.

Or are goons really just paper tiger?



I think the answer to your question has something to do with the words 'attention span'

No good deed goes unpunished
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#63 - 2011-12-24 19:19:51 UTC
Maxpie wrote:
Boris Ginnungagap wrote:
If they really want to shake down eve, why don't they start attacking these POS's?

They can field the dps, even in highsec (unless too negative sec status), they can also fund war decs.

Or are goons really just paper tiger?



I think the answer to your question has something to do with the words 'attention span'



Agreed, the Goons don't have the attention span to do something like keep the price of a certain racial isotope inflated for months through a dedicated and efficient campaign of suicide ganking miners.... oooh, Look, it's Boo. Boo come back here, let me help you find Minsc, Boo......

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Palmput
Oruze Cruise
White Stag Exit Bag
#64 - 2011-12-24 19:29:31 UTC
They're busy smashing White Noise towers.Lol
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#65 - 2011-12-26 01:17:19 UTC
Stahlregen wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Hey, do you guys remember White Noise?

Yeah, we burned down their space today. All of it.


Translation for the 1337/h4rdc0r3-speak into proper English:

Hey, guys! Remember us? Does anyone still care?

Um...guys?
Hey, guys??

GUYS??????!!

RollRollUgh

Boy are you mad about Goons.


Boy, your responses sure are predictable and formulaic.


Hey buddy, you should show some respect for someone with so much more plus rep than you.


Sorry, mate, but Lyris Nairn is the only Sky-Captain of my heart Blink...That, and Harlot's avi is just revoltingUgh

Ni.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2011-12-26 01:54:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ladie Harlot
Lyrrashae wrote:
Sorry, mate, but Lyris Nairn is the only Sky-Captain of my heart Blink...That, and Harlot's avi is just revoltingUgh

I find people with less than 100 'likes' revolting.

By the way, why are you so mad about Goons? Did we scam you or did you belong to a horrible alliance that we removed from nullsec?

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
K Suri
Doomheim
#67 - 2011-12-26 02:01:56 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Ocih wrote:
What I just said was, High Sec Pos allows you to circumvent the Cartels. No high sec POS ops will compete with Sov station production. For the alliance holding the outpost cost of productions is next to 0.


Actually, 0.0 production can't compete with all the highsec factory slots. Nullsec production capacity in stations is incredibly limited: we have like 10 slots available...in factory stations, which are "dedicated" to building things. We import the vast majority of things we need from highsec because (and CCP hasn't figured this out in eight years) highsec lends itself a thousand times more easily to building things than nullsec does.

What rot. POS's can build **** too. Maybe YOU haven't figure THAT out in your 12 years of life.

1 x component array will take 10 jobs.
1 x equipment array can take what, 6.

But it needs MINERALS.

Might be it's just soooooooo much easier to import than get the leets to go "mining". GASP!
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#68 - 2011-12-26 02:07:49 UTC
K Suri wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Ocih wrote:
What I just said was, High Sec Pos allows you to circumvent the Cartels. No high sec POS ops will compete with Sov station production. For the alliance holding the outpost cost of productions is next to 0.


Actually, 0.0 production can't compete with all the highsec factory slots. Nullsec production capacity in stations is incredibly limited: we have like 10 slots available...in factory stations, which are "dedicated" to building things. We import the vast majority of things we need from highsec because (and CCP hasn't figured this out in eight years) highsec lends itself a thousand times more easily to building things than nullsec does.

What rot. POS's can build **** too. Maybe YOU haven't figure THAT out in your 12 years of life.

1 x component array will take 10 jobs.
1 x equipment array can take what, 6.

But it needs MINERALS.

Might be it's just soooooooo much easier to import than get the leets to go "mining". GASP!


POSes are equally available in Hisec, and gathering minerals and POS fuel is easier (thus cheaper). Combine with the fact that you cannot kill a hisec POS whose owner has half a brain, and the POS argument falls apart

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#69 - 2011-12-26 02:15:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
K Suri wrote:
Might be it's just soooooooo much easier to import than get the leets to go "mining". GASP!


Yes, it is. In EVE as it is now, industry of all kinds in 0.0 - from mining, to manufacturing, research, invention, etc. is just so terrible that there's no reason to do it other than "I enjoy this kind of gamestyle". Importing from highsec is faster, cheaper, more efficient, and safer.

I really hope this gets fixed one day. I would love to see true empires rise in 0.0, where every facet of the game has its place and every profession is useful. But I have a feeling that boosting 0.0 industry to viable levels would make every "highseccer" cry because they can't make the most profit by themselves while sitting safe in an NPC station.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#70 - 2011-12-26 02:23:02 UTC
Quote:
Our tax rate is always 15%


Which is why you're considered 3.5% more carebear then hisec nubcorps.

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are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2011-12-26 05:21:16 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Quote:
Our tax rate is always 15%


Which is why you're considered 3.5% more carebear then hisec nubcorps.

Cipher Jones missing the point as usual.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#72 - 2011-12-26 05:29:05 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Quote:
Our tax rate is always 15%


Which is why you're considered 3.5% more carebear then hisec nubcorps.

Cipher Jones missing the point as usual.


I miss points all the time. Sad I bad 'ceptor pilot.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
c4 t
Cosmic Psychedelics
#73 - 2011-12-26 06:43:37 UTC
So brave
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#74 - 2011-12-26 07:15:47 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
K Suri wrote:
Might be it's just soooooooo much easier to import than get the leets to go "mining". GASP!


Yes, it is. In EVE as it is now, industry of all kinds in 0.0 - from mining, to manufacturing, research, invention, etc. is just so terrible that there's no reason to do it other than "I enjoy this kind of gamestyle". Importing from highsec is faster, cheaper, more efficient, and safer.

I really hope this gets fixed one day. I would love to see true empires rise in 0.0, where every facet of the game has its place and every profession is useful. But I have a feeling that boosting 0.0 industry to viable levels would make every "highseccer" cry because they can't make the most profit by themselves while sitting safe in an NPC station.



Alot of the null sec alliances do like to fight more then to produce and being kicked off your land every so often is detrimental to industry. But be of good cheer, null sec only makes titans and supers and then low and null can only make capitals. So the queen's jewels of industry is found in null and low sec. No reason to grow jealous of us simple peons with our manual labor in hi sec.

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Richter Enderas
Kaesong Kosmonauts
#75 - 2011-12-26 10:25:16 UTC
I hear nullsec is a dangerous place.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2011-12-26 11:19:07 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Why are you shipping anything in? It's easier to min veld in high sec. Not better, easier. Everything you need to produce in null sec is in Null sec..

You should try living in null and doing production in null before you make any more comments.

i live in 0.0. in dronelands.

There is no problems with production here.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Jin Leegai
Hearts Of Copper
#77 - 2011-12-26 11:24:44 UTC
Why would any respectable nullsec alliance want to? we have all the ISK and pew pew we want and no highsec pubbies to bother us.

ya'll just mad cause we stylin' on ya
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2011-12-26 11:37:50 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Hey, do you guys remember White Noise?

Yeah, we burned down their space today. All of it.


Translation for the 1337/h4rdc0r3-speak into proper English:

Hey, guys! Remember us? Does anyone still care?

Um...guys?
Hey, guys??

GUYS??????!!

RollRollUgh

Boy are you mad about Goons.


Boy, your responses sure are predictable and formulaic.

that's how he makes likes (1029 likes atm) Big smile

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Atuk Belinen
Red Bluff
#79 - 2011-12-26 11:49:03 UTC
ahh because you can just take it down b4 a war starts duh ohh i mean derp
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2011-12-26 12:17:11 UTC
Im still all for a Empire VS Null war.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.