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Codes place in the NULLocalypse

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#61 - 2015-04-14 05:38:25 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
Well, first and foremost we have no interest in the goings on of Null Sec space. We have members from several of the major alliances and we all work together towards a common goal. We have no interest in getting involved in any conflict in Null Sec.

Second you showed disrespect to our Illustrious Leader and could not be bothered to even get his name correct, so you'll understand if we were less than interested in your initial proposal and interpreted it as a troll rather than an actual invitation. Either way we aren't interested, but it did steer our responses in a less than gracious direction.

-Tengu Grib
Warmaster (apparently)

As director of operations for the nullpocalypse I would like to apologize for the mispronounced name and any offense it caused. I have long been a loyal supporter and follower of the saviour of high sec and the holy text he provided. Although we are saddened at no large Code. presence within the ranks of the nullpocalypse I would like to issue a standing invite to any and all members of your fine organization to join us on any fleet ops that are convenient for yourselves.

Noragen Neirfallas
Director of Operations for the Nullpocalypse (DON)

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#62 - 2015-04-15 02:33:58 UTC
Amy Lemmont wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No shame in illiteracy, but lots of shame in proudly displaying it all over the forums.
Is that a fact, or a personal attack?

The very definition of hypocrite.


Well, whether it is an apt description of someone who is unable to comprehend the first paragraph of a two paragraph post, I leave to your discretion, Sir Jonah.


Nope i saw your "No and No". I was simply commenting that making personal attacks against one's CSM campaign wasn't really necessary and is only hurting your own cause.


Dearest Amy,

Normally I would not bother explaining such trivial things to you, but as I am often one to complain about the rather poor customer service feedback scores obtained by New Order Agents (worse than telemarketers!), I will spend some of my precious time teaching you some rudimentary thinking skills.

Pointing out the spectacular failure of Sabriz's much hyped but ill fated CSM campaign is not some kind of "personal attack." It is instead, a fundamental example of the structure of ordered liberty in highsec, and a reflection that the good people in highsec, the majority, are not interested in griefing and harassment. Despite Sabriz's numerous events, speeches, and pep rallies, no more than a handful of sorry fools cast a vote for the Code "more grieifng and PvP in highsec platform." Rather, the citizenry voted en masse for the pro-PvE playstyle, and for a friendlier and more collaborative highsec.

So what, I hear you screeching, unable, like most Agents, to engage in careful and reasoned analysis. Does it matter that Code is revealed to be a renegade organization wholly lacking in popular support? It sure does - James 315, scammer, ex-Goon, and the nefarious leader of your group, claims to have been elected to his position, claims to have the support of the masses, and claims to be a democratic leader. The shame! The horror, the horror. It is a moth-eaten and increasingly collapsing foundation of deception and foolery, soon to become a sad pile of rubble.

The common man in highsec rejects Code. As do sophisticated PvE players like Veers Belvar. New players detest the group. Winning an election? You make me laugh. James 315 couldn't even get elected outhouse cleaner at a chili convention.

It's time to hang up your boots, Agent. Code is widely reviled, a sad failure, and has no legitimate governing authority. Sabriz demonstrated that emperor James 315 truly has no clothes. So that, Amy dearest, is why it was not a personal attack on Sabriz, but rather just a convincing demonstration of objective Eve reality using Sabriz as a foil.

I do hope you understand now, but am realistic that you may lack the capacity.

Yours & compliments,

Veers Belvar

The guy who tells the hard truths in highsec.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#63 - 2015-04-15 07:39:18 UTC
A sure sign of spring, as Veers appears to be growing a sense of humor!
Keep on watering that little sapling, eventually it will grow into a mighty oak.
\o/

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#64 - 2015-04-15 07:57:07 UTC
soo code is your big plan for burning nullsec. good luck with that catalysts dont last long in null

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Amy Lemmont
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2015-04-17 01:42:00 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
So what, I hear you screeching, unable, like most Agents, to engage in careful and reasoned analysis. Does it matter that Code is revealed to be a renegade organization wholly lacking in popular support? It sure does - James 315, scammer, ex-Goon, and the nefarious leader of your group, claims to have been elected to his position, claims to have the support of the masses, and claims to be a democratic leader. The shame! The horror, the horror. It is a moth-eaten and increasingly collapsing foundation of deception and foolery, soon to become a sad pile of rubble.


I'd be willing to bet we have many times more supporters then you do. Proof of our supporters. So show us all powerful Veers, where are all of your supporters at? Well???
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#66 - 2015-04-17 03:10:03 UTC
Amy Lemmont wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
So what, I hear you screeching, unable, like most Agents, to engage in careful and reasoned analysis. Does it matter that Code is revealed to be a renegade organization wholly lacking in popular support? It sure does - James 315, scammer, ex-Goon, and the nefarious leader of your group, claims to have been elected to his position, claims to have the support of the masses, and claims to be a democratic leader. The shame! The horror, the horror. It is a moth-eaten and increasingly collapsing foundation of deception and foolery, soon to become a sad pile of rubble.


I'd be willing to bet we have many times more supporters then you do. Proof of our supporters. So show us all powerful Veers, where are all of your supporters at? Well???


Your supporters? Big smile

Last I heard the new kindergarten counting exercise is to tally up the votes for Sabriz, because if you start with nothing, and add just a bit, you end up with not much at all.

As opposed to the countless thousands who turned up and voted for safer and more dignified highsec, for collaborative PvE play, for an end to the pathetic griefing, and for a better gameplay experience for all. The vote tallies don't lie - the highsec folks got elected, the code csm candidate was relegated to the ashtray of history.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#67 - 2015-04-17 03:32:05 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Amy Lemmont wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
So what, I hear you screeching, unable, like most Agents, to engage in careful and reasoned analysis. Does it matter that Code is revealed to be a renegade organization wholly lacking in popular support? It sure does - James 315, scammer, ex-Goon, and the nefarious leader of your group, claims to have been elected to his position, claims to have the support of the masses, and claims to be a democratic leader. The shame! The horror, the horror. It is a moth-eaten and increasingly collapsing foundation of deception and foolery, soon to become a sad pile of rubble.


I'd be willing to bet we have many times more supporters then you do. Proof of our supporters. So show us all powerful Veers, where are all of your supporters at? Well???


Your supporters? Big smile

Last I heard the new kindergarten counting exercise is to tally up the votes for Sabriz, because if you start with nothing, and add just a bit, you end up with not much at all.

As opposed to the countless thousands who turned up and voted for safer and more dignified highsec, for collaborative PvE play, for an end to the pathetic griefing, and for a better gameplay experience for all. The vote tallies don't lie - the highsec folks got elected, the code csm candidate was relegated to the ashtray of history.

But since CCP is not stupid and they create a sandbox game and not some STO rippoff they will probably ignore your tears and continue to create an interesting game where ganking is an important part of the gAme mechanics.
Gerhard Stringfellow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2015-04-17 04:25:44 UTC
I don't see how the changes to null will disrupt CODE at all.

Another pubbie elite PvE pay to win mining carebear

Lavitias Arjar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2015-04-17 07:27:53 UTC
Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:
I don't see how the changes to null will disrupt CODE at all.


It won't it will be business as usual for them in high sec.
Gerhard Stringfellow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2015-04-17 07:31:08 UTC
Lavitias Arjar wrote:
Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:
I don't see how the changes to null will disrupt CODE at all.


It won't it will be business as usual for them in high sec.


You realize they aren't in null, right?

Another pubbie elite PvE pay to win mining carebear

Amy Lemmont
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2015-04-17 20:41:16 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Amy Lemmont wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
So what, I hear you screeching, unable, like most Agents, to engage in careful and reasoned analysis. Does it matter that Code is revealed to be a renegade organization wholly lacking in popular support? It sure does - James 315, scammer, ex-Goon, and the nefarious leader of your group, claims to have been elected to his position, claims to have the support of the masses, and claims to be a democratic leader. The shame! The horror, the horror. It is a moth-eaten and increasingly collapsing foundation of deception and foolery, soon to become a sad pile of rubble.


I'd be willing to bet we have many times more supporters then you do. Proof of our supporters. So show us all powerful Veers, where are all of your supporters at? Well???


Your supporters? Big smile

Last I heard the new kindergarten counting exercise is to tally up the votes for Sabriz, because if you start with nothing, and add just a bit, you end up with not much at all.

As opposed to the countless thousands who turned up and voted for safer and more dignified highsec, for collaborative PvE play, for an end to the pathetic griefing, and for a better gameplay experience for all. The vote tallies don't lie - the highsec folks got elected, the code csm candidate was relegated to the ashtray of history.


I see we are deluding the facts again. I provided proof of supporters of our cause. Yet you can't provide one shed of evidence that anyone at all supports you. Oh wait, why would someone support a forum troll? The point is that they don't.
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
#72 - 2015-04-18 14:19:36 UTC
Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:
I don't see how the changes to null will disrupt CODE at all.

Not what this thread is about dude, I suggest reading the whole thing before posting.

Tyyler DURden says "use soap"

Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#73 - 2015-04-18 15:13:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin
Freighter traffic might die down temporarily. Sad

However, most of the unfortunate victims have been seen carrying not compressed ores and capital ship components, but high-value, low-volume merchandise in cargo vessels not designed for this purpose while being anti-tanked all the while. Pirate
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#74 - 2015-04-19 01:01:25 UTC
Amy Lemmont wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Amy Lemmont wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
So what, I hear you screeching, unable, like most Agents, to engage in careful and reasoned analysis. Does it matter that Code is revealed to be a renegade organization wholly lacking in popular support? It sure does - James 315, scammer, ex-Goon, and the nefarious leader of your group, claims to have been elected to his position, claims to have the support of the masses, and claims to be a democratic leader. The shame! The horror, the horror. It is a moth-eaten and increasingly collapsing foundation of deception and foolery, soon to become a sad pile of rubble.


I'd be willing to bet we have many times more supporters then you do. Proof of our supporters. So show us all powerful Veers, where are all of your supporters at? Well???


Your supporters? Big smile

Last I heard the new kindergarten counting exercise is to tally up the votes for Sabriz, because if you start with nothing, and add just a bit, you end up with not much at all.

As opposed to the countless thousands who turned up and voted for safer and more dignified highsec, for collaborative PvE play, for an end to the pathetic griefing, and for a better gameplay experience for all. The vote tallies don't lie - the highsec folks got elected, the code csm candidate was relegated to the ashtray of history.


I see we are deluding the facts again. I provided proof of supporters of our cause. Yet you can't provide one shed of evidence that anyone at all supports you. Oh wait, why would someone support a forum troll? The point is that they don't.


Money =/= supporters. Having a bunch of rich astroturf donors does not a movement make, as the csm elections demonstrated.
Paranoid Loyd
#75 - 2015-04-19 01:06:47 UTC
Yes Veers, Money does indeed = Supporters. Nice try though.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#76 - 2015-04-19 01:56:43 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Money =/= supporters

Mind = Blown ShockedShocked

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#77 - 2015-04-19 01:58:08 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Yes Veers, Money does indeed = Supporters. Nice try though.


No, votes = supporters. Voting is when people need to actually decide on why they truly support, and the code campaign flamed out spectacularly.
Amy Lemmont
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2015-04-19 03:03:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Amy Lemmont
Veers Belvar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Yes Veers, Money does indeed = Supporters. Nice try though.


No, votes = supporters. Voting is when people need to actually decide on why they truly support, and the code campaign flamed out spectacularly.


And people buy shares from us, because they hate us? Do you see how dumb you sound right now, or are you too dumb even for that? So let me explain this to you so even your 2 brain cells will sink it in...

1. Not everyone votes.

2. Some people in CODE. and other individuals in corps and alliances friendly to the New Order do have mains and alts in other areas of New Eden and could have voted in line to what their main interest is in game. For instance my main is in a WH corp within Brave alliance, so my card was filled mostly with WH, Null sec, and NPE guys.

3. You still have yet to have shown one shred of proof that anyone supports you, or that your movement is in any way even slowing us down let alone close to shutting us down.

I patiently wait for your next volley of tearsBlink
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#79 - 2015-04-19 03:34:17 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Yes Veers, Money does indeed = Supporters. Nice try though.


No, votes = supporters. Voting is when people need to actually decide on why they truly support, and the code campaign flamed out spectacularly.

Well, since every single capsuleer in highsec voted James 315 into office as the Supreme Protector of Highsec it seams wemhave a lot of supporters on our side. Why should we even care about something else if we own the most populated and wealthy part of space in New Eden?
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#80 - 2015-04-19 05:02:56 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Yes Veers, Money does indeed = Supporters. Nice try though.


No, votes = supporters. Voting is when people need to actually decide on why they truly support, and the code campaign flamed out spectacularly.

Well, since every single capsuleer in highsec voted James 315 into office as the Supreme Protector of Highsec it seams wemhave a lot of supporters on our side. Why should we even care about something else if we own the most populated and wealthy part of space in New Eden?


Au contraire - the CSM elections were a perfect indication of the support your group has - minimal to none. No one "elected" James 315 to anything - you are nothing more than a fringe group of loonies dedicated to repeatedly engaging in illegal criminal activity, and are rightly punished by the law enforcement authorities.

As already established, there is no sovereignty in highsec, so you don't "own" anything. Perhaps its time to lay the bravado and delusional talking points to rest, and come to grips with the facts on the ground?