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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#41 - 2015-04-17 17:15:25 UTC
ace face
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2015-04-17 17:17:45 UTC
I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#43 - 2015-04-17 17:22:54 UTC
You should have taken my first post exactly as I wrote it.

It's still to come ... tbh I am wondering why there's no apparent progress ...
... but besides that is it almost impossible for EVE to die, unless CCP kills it.


When I look at what the goons are doing now ...
... over ten thousand (!) individuals working together collectively ...
... I see no need for fear or worry about the future of the game. :)


Your idea simply does not fit. CCP Seagull's NewSpace is the closest thing you'll get
and wormhole space is the closest thing we already have.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#44 - 2015-04-17 17:25:45 UTC
ace face wrote:
I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it.


lol, someone is taking things way to serious. CCP doesn't need your help, no "jet fighters in space" game is any kind of threat to EVE, and wtf do 'rich people' have to do with anything?

A wormhole to earth is a dumb idea, and as has been mentioned, We don't use all of the 'space' EVE has now. If you come up with a good idea people and maybe CCP will listen, but you haven't don't that at all in any way shape or from.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#45 - 2015-04-17 17:44:30 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
ace face wrote:
I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it.


lol, someone is taking things way to serious. CCP doesn't need your help, no "jet fighters in space" game is any kind of threat to EVE, and wtf do 'rich people' have to do with anything?

A wormhole to earth is a dumb idea, and as has been mentioned, We don't use all of the 'space' EVE has now. If you come up with a good idea people and maybe CCP will listen, but you haven't don't that at all in any way shape or from.
too seriously*
haven't done*
form*

Also ... punctuation.
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ace face
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2015-04-17 17:57:48 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
ace face wrote:
I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it.


lol, someone is taking things way to serious. CCP doesn't need your help, no "jet fighters in space" game is any kind of threat to EVE, and wtf do 'rich people' have to do with anything?

A wormhole to earth is a dumb idea, and as has been mentioned, We don't use all of the 'space' EVE has now. If you come up with a good idea people and maybe CCP will listen, but you haven't don't that at all in any way shape or from.


Will in my mind, the only one's that wouldn't want more space are the one's getting rich of the space already here, If there is more room there is less control over resources, if there is less control over resources the price of said resources would plummets, making it easier for newer corps and newer members to the games to grow and amass their own wealth, without joining a huge alliance at first. That's just on the one side.
Oh and Jet fighters in space is just the one side of that game getting out of your ship and a smooth transition over to a FPS is the part that's going to pull a lot of interest I think, and if project legion is going to do something like that, I may be here for another 10yrs time will tell.

Look I can keep going on and on, and on. But I don't seeing the point, this just takes away from the issue at hand.

With that said, the space in New Eden should there be more then one gate, or just one?
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#47 - 2015-04-17 18:08:58 UTC
ace face wrote:
... making it easier for newer corps and newer members to the games to grow and amass their own wealth ...
That's not how it works.


The easier it is to make money, the more money will be made by more people.
More people with more money means more people buy more things for that money.
More people buying more things, means that everything turns more expensive.

There would be a shift, things would balance out and everything would be the same again ...
... except that the number in the wallet is higher.


Also: New players do not need to amass weatlth.
They need to amass fun.


Fun <> Wealth.


You seem to need to know more about how the game works and how we all are connected with eachother.
How changes can have a significant impact and how bad it is when too many people can make money too easily.
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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#48 - 2015-04-17 18:11:17 UTC
ace face wrote:


Will in my mind, the only one's that wouldn't want more space are the one's getting rich of the space already here, If there is more room there is less control over resources, if there is less control over resources the price of said resources would plummets, making it easier for newer corps and newer members to the games to grow and amass their own wealth, without joining a huge alliance at first. That's just on the one side.


It's the 'make's no sense' side. You're really just saying "if people don't agree with me, they must have some bad motive". It's simply not true.

CCP might make more space of some kind and that's cool, but the idea that EVE 'needs' more space when we don't use most of what we have now is ridiculous. Aslo, a 'lack of space' has nothing to do with who owns space, "new groups" and "small groups" don't do much because most are run by people who don't know what they are doing. When new groups have leaders who do know what they are doing (and who have or find a source of players for their group), they do will, like Goons once did and Brave is doing now.

TL;Dr it ain't the 'man' holding people back , it's themselves and "more space" will never be a substitute for competent leadership.

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Oh and Jet fighters in space is just the one side of that game getting out of your ship and a smooth transition over to a FPS is the part that's going to pull a lot of interest I think, and if project legion is going to do something like that, I may be here for another 10yrs time will tell.


Time has told:

Jumpgate
Black Prophecy
Star Wars Galaxy
Star Wars: The Old Republic
Star Trek Online
Elite : Dangerous

All were supposed to kill EVE and most do the things you describe. Result on EVE? Nothing. The fact that you drank some Roberts flavored kool-Aid doesn't change the facts, SC isn't competition for EVE, other than the space setting, they have nothing in common.
ace face
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2015-04-17 18:25:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ace face
Jenn aSide wrote:
ace face wrote:


Will in my mind, the only one's that wouldn't want more space are the one's getting rich of the space already here, If there is more room there is less control over resources, if there is less control over resources the price of said resources would plummets, making it easier for newer corps and newer members to the games to grow and amass their own wealth, without joining a huge alliance at first. That's just on the one side.


It's the 'make's no sense' side. You're really just saying "if people don't agree with me, they must have some bad motive". It's simply not true.

CCP might make more space of some kind and that's cool, but the idea that EVE 'needs' more space when we don't use most of what we have now is ridiculous. Aslo, a 'lack of space' has nothing to do with who owns space, "new groups" and "small groups" don't do much because most are run by people who don't know what they are doing. When new groups have leaders who do know what they are doing (and who have or find a source of players for their group), they do will, like Goons once did and Brave is doing now.

TL;Dr it ain't the 'man' holding people back , it's themselves and "more space" will never be a substitute for competent leadership.

Quote:

Oh and Jet fighters in space is just the one side of that game getting out of your ship and a smooth transition over to a FPS is the part that's going to pull a lot of interest I think, and if project legion is going to do something like that, I may be here for another 10yrs time will tell.


Time has told:

Jumpgate
Black Prophecy
Star Wars Galaxy
Star Wars: The Old Republic
Star Trek Online
Elite : Dangerous

All were supposed to kill EVE and most do the things you describe. Result on EVE? Nothing. The fact that you drank some Roberts flavored kool-Aid doesn't change the facts, SC isn't competition for EVE, other than the space setting, they have nothing in common.


Your right $79,147,186(to date) crowd funded game, we will be nice and say 79 mil dollars in funds raised for a game that isn't even out yet, time will tell. I'm thinking you are underestimating how many folks have tried eve and didn't like the game or those that put there hart in and got bet down by this or that.

All that aside one gate or many, maybe even some random WHs that get you though like a gate hehe smugglers route.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#50 - 2015-04-17 18:36:48 UTC
ace face wrote:


Your right $79,147,186(to date) crowd funded game, we will be nice and say 79 mil dollars in funds raised for a game that isn't even out yet, time will tell.


People once gave this guy 65 Billion U.S. dollars.

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I'm thinking you are underestimating how many folks have tried eve and didn't like the game or those that put there hart in and got bet down by this or that.

All that aside one gate or many, maybe even some random WHs that get you though like a gate hehe smugglers route.


I'm not underestimating anything. For 12 years people have talked about who the next new thing is going to kill EVE. It never does, and it won't this time. People will play SC (I sure will/do), but that has nothing to do with EVE.

When people mention these other games, they are trying to scare CCP into some kind of action they want them to take. It's nothing more than weak "meta-gaming" and mentioning some game that has nothing to do with EVE suggest that a poster has no confidence in their own ideas (because a good idea doesn't require 'scare tactic' back up).
ace face
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2015-04-17 18:54:17 UTC
One gate or many, maybe even some random WH's that get you though like a new eden, like a smugglers wh route. We can even have oh I don't have the new eden gates in high sec on both sides and the wh's drop you off in low sec space at random on the other side of the new eden wh.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#52 - 2015-04-17 18:58:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Imagine him being a devalt on agenda, trying to promote something ...

... realising that he's failing horribly!



Wouldn't that be hilarious? ^_^



Btw, your portrait is nice. Well done on that one!
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ace face
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2015-04-17 19:19:04 UTC
I just don't see how some of these post have anything to do with the topic at hand?

Talking about how you don't like a idea and why you don't like it other then cuss would help build a foundation for a argument, and the older guys that are getting rich off the choke point in space and you wonder why some of the space isn't used. Hard to use space when there are choke point to get anywhere, should be able to point your ship at a star gate and hit your MWD and a weeks later, you show up in that system if not longer but what do I know. I've only had my pod 3 systems over before they killed warping to system bm's and we still in same system so yeah :P
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#54 - 2015-04-18 06:22:04 UTC
ace face wrote:
I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it.

Yes, we are all just bitter and want eve to die, that is why we don't like your absolutely brilliant idea about something something terran, new space, something t4 power creep..

Evil RatKid
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#55 - 2015-04-18 13:25:40 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
ace face wrote:
I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it.

Yes, we are all just bitter and want eve to die, that is why we don't like your absolutely brilliant idea about something something terran, new space, something t4 power creep..

You know what we really need?

A seperate server for everyone who wants to do what the OP wants!
They could split the EVE dev teams in half and work on this completely new, seperate game!

They could make it single player, too! Or, better, with ghosts!

So they all play together,
while not playing together,
so everyone's happy!


EVERYONE'S HAPPY!

WOULDN'T THAT BE AWESOME???
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ace face
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2015-04-18 13:31:47 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
ace face wrote:
I'm just trying to help here popping new Idea's fail or not is what i like doing, I would love to see EvE for another 20yrs and not out in the next 10, with all the other games like star citizen and what have you, keeping eve alive is my goal, and if i have to stomp on the face of a few cry babies that want to stay rich in game, and don't want change in the process then so f be it.

Yes, we are all just bitter and want eve to die, that is why we don't like your absolutely brilliant idea about something something terran, new space, something t4 power creep..

You know what we really need?

A seperate server for everyone who wants to do what the OP wants!
They could split the EVE dev teams in half and work on this completely new, seperate game!

They could make it single player, too! Or, better, with ghosts!

So they all play together,
while not playing together,
so everyone's happy!


EVERYONE'S HAPPY!

WOULDN'T THAT BE AWESOME???


I really did try to take something out of what you trying to convey, but its so fragmented. I'm just not sure what your saying!
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#57 - 2015-04-18 13:58:00 UTC
ace face wrote:
I just don't see how some of these post have anything to do with the topic at hand?

Talking about how you don't like a idea and why you don't like it other then cuss would help build a foundation for a argument, and the older guys that are getting rich off the choke point in space and you wonder why some of the space isn't used. Hard to use space when there are choke point to get anywhere, should be able to point your ship at a star gate and hit your MWD and a weeks later, you show up in that system if not longer but what do I know. I've only had my pod 3 systems over before they killed warping to system bm's and we still in same system so yeah :P

There are even random wormholes now that take you to deep null if you are lucky, so I don't really know what the actual problem is you try to solve. If you can't make it in todays null or w-space what makes you think it will be better if they add some new space?

And seriously, star citizens... i was one of the early followers of the project, i even have this golden ticket thing.. but i purchased the minimal package very late. I had to stop reading the forums there, because of all the 40+ who would talk about how they could finance one more non existing pixel spaceship for their non existing hangar. Also because of all the silly ideas about what they expect the game to be whitout a concept if that even make sense in a game, a bit like in this thread you know.

I will probably play SC for a while if the linux client is out and my computer can handle it. I was a fan of WC Privateer, which is why I started playing eve. But I do not expect a game that is anything like eve or even remotely a competition. And yes, their spaceships look like airplanes.. it's just silly

Evil RatKid
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2015-04-18 14:04:53 UTC
ace face wrote:
I really did try to take something out of what you trying to convey, but its so fragmented. I'm just not sure what your saying!

Lol

Oh the irony!

Grrr.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#59 - 2015-04-18 14:39:34 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
... i was one of the early followers of the project ...
Why thank you! :O
I had no idea you cared! <3 <3


*snickers xD*
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ace face
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2015-04-18 14:57:05 UTC
I just want to run something by everyone here, say they do expand and open up the New Eden wormhole, but it don't lead to the milky way it leads to another dimension instead, or something else all together, you get the picture. Are you telling me, your not going to play if CCP does this? Never mind anything on this thread, right here right now tell me if CCP did open the New Eden wormhole, tell me you are going to quit playing EVE due to this? I'll call you a liar.

Hypothetically speaking of course, now if CCP did open the WH in New Eden, what would you like to see or find in said place. This is where you can show everyone here, that you do indeed have a imagination and think out side of the box!