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Returning-casual-player experiences

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Afrigael Hax
Doomheim
#81 - 2015-04-17 13:59:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Afrigael Hax
I think my problem was I had too many contradictory ideas floating around in my head about how to procede with what really was actually bugging me...why don't my fekin friends play this game? ...they'd love it..its so frustrating. I do know what to do now. I'm going to make a short vid of me doing cool stuff with my new 2 week old toon , put it on dropbox and send emails with an invite on the vid to join me for a couple of months in the game and hang out. Its true when you come into this game you have huge misconceptions about lots of stuff, the 'moment of enlightenment' that I was thinking I (and pretty much every player I talked to) was actually the moment that you realise everything you've read or watched is basically bullshit.. the game's only harsh if you think it is and the skill learning speed is just something you get used to. How do you change the perceptions of folk out there when there's so much rubbish being spoken in reviews and on utube ..long term players wittering on about how harsh the game is etc. This is how bad that programming is...I've been off doing stuff already but still thinking 'this game is holding me back'. That's kinda disturbing actually that I couldn't see that. Thanks for all the good advise. All the stuff I was throwing out there was none of my ideas originally but a conglomeration of ideas from other rookies in the game... that's a bit worrying really. Wether we like it or not the fact is even 15minutes delay at the start of a game is 15minutes for that player to decide ..fek this I can't be arsed. If any of my friends join me I'll just ask them to pick a frigate and a cruiser and I'll send them the relevant skillbooks to get straight into doing some interesting stuff. I think that might work.
I think the moral of the story here is not to post stuff while angry and confused... and not to be rude to newbies just because they mention a certain game.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#82 - 2015-04-17 14:08:06 UTC
Afrigael Hax wrote:
I'm going to make a short vid of me doing cool stuff with my new 2 week old toon , put it on dropbox and send emails with an invite on the vid to join me for a couple of months in the game and hang out.

Just use this one, honestly.

Though I've found it's always easier to make friends in-game than try to bring RL people in.

Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli

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Afrigael Hax
Doomheim
#83 - 2015-04-17 15:41:00 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Afrigael Hax wrote:
I'm going to make a short vid of me doing cool stuff with my new 2 week old toon , put it on dropbox and send emails with an invite on the vid to join me for a couple of months in the game and hang out.

Just use this one, honestly.

Though I've found it's always easier to make friends in-game than try to bring RL people in.

Cheers thats a cool vid..but I think seeing me actually doing stuff would make more of an impression
flakeys
Doomheim
#84 - 2015-04-17 16:31:14 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Afrigael Hax wrote:
...why don't my fekin friends play this game? ...they'd love it..its so frustrating .


Eve is not a game for everyone.No scratch that , eve is a game only a few ''selected'' enjoy.I have had many friends who played mmorpgs but none of them liked eve , yet somehow i loved it enough to play for 10 years wich is something i would have never held possible.Look at the vid posted above and listen to the excitement people are playing this game , that is the beauty of eve IF you enjoy it you'll find there is no other game that can give you the ''emotions'' eve has and that is not just meant for the pvp aspect.

Don't waste too much time trying to pursuade friends to play eve , rather spend that time enjoying the game for what it is and make friends here in the process.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Afrigael Hax
Doomheim
#85 - 2015-04-17 18:19:53 UTC
Ya that's good advise man.. but just had another disturbing thought .. I've obviously been playing this game all wrong.. you guys have made it clear even to me that I can't truely play this game as a roleplayer, you just have to read up on stuff that your toon wouldn't know.
The disturbing thought is ...a clueless noob (ie me) with NO direction whatsoever in his skill learning has produced this toon which can easily farm wormhole combat sites in his cane and earn enough isk to buy a plex every 2 months even on my limited gaming time ...
Personally I find that a bit worrying because it has brought me right back to the 'who's going to pay for the game if everyone's playing for free?'
flakeys
Doomheim
#86 - 2015-04-18 07:16:57 UTC
Afrigael Hax wrote:

Personally I find that a bit worrying because it has brought me right back to the 'who's going to pay for the game if everyone's playing for free?'


Since you stated this a few times i am going to assume troll now because why the hell would someone have to worry about this ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Afrigael Hax
Doomheim
#87 - 2015-04-18 13:50:32 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Afrigael Hax wrote:

Personally I find that a bit worrying because it has brought me right back to the 'who's going to pay for the game if everyone's playing for free?'


Since you stated this a few times i am going to assume troll now because why the hell would someone have to worry about this ...

Yeah I should just shut up ... but it seems to me we are entering Eve's 'Golden Age'. You know you've seen it before...suddenly everything seems to come together in a game, its amazing for a few years and then boom, suddenly you are running around in an empty landscape. It might not happen with Eve as somebody pointed out its taken many years to get to this point and it might take decades to croak.
Why would I worry..its simple ...new players pay for this game ..where's the new players?.. its not rocket science dude.
Vorll Minaaran
Centre Of Attention
#88 - 2015-04-18 19:20:13 UTC
Not only new players play for the game. I'm paying with cash, because I can earn the subscription fee with less time in work than I have to grind ISK. 15$ not that much, could be even lower when you pay 1 year sub. And I'm only a not-so-well payed worker in the public sector.
When I login, I want to have fun not working on my second job only for to be able to buy another PLEX and work again for the next month.
Afrigael Hax
Doomheim
#89 - 2015-04-19 00:40:48 UTC
Vorll Minaaran wrote:
Not only new players play for the game. I'm paying with cash, because I can earn the subscription fee with less time in work than I have to grind ISK. 15$ not that much, could be even lower when you pay 1 year sub. And I'm only a not-so-well payed worker in the public sector.
When I login, I want to have fun not working on my second job only for to be able to buy another PLEX and work again for the next month.

Ya well said dude. If I double my gaming time I could earn a plex a month farming wormhole rats, but that's not fun to me and I don't have the time. Tbh maybe it would've been better to ask for ideas that could generate cash for ccp and yet improve the game for us. I'd love shedloads of cosmetic T1 frigate skins I could buy from the eve store, sadly us noobs love useless but shiny stuff and will spend real money for it.