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Make personal wallet like corporation wallet

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Ddolik
Bohemian Veterans
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2015-04-16 12:51:47 UTC
Hello,

Please make personal wallet like corporation wallet, where you can make labbel, name them and put some % of your income to these labbels, please
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#2 - 2015-04-16 12:55:10 UTC
+1 to your idea.

-1 to your face.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#3 - 2015-04-16 13:19:37 UTC
McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:
-1 to your face.

Pot calling the kettle black? Whatever

+1 - not sure I would ever use it but why not.
Ddolik
Bohemian Veterans
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2015-04-16 15:20:54 UTC
yup
Nolen Cadmar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-04-16 18:49:36 UTC
+1. Pretty sure this has been proposed before. I'd love to see personal wallet divisions.

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James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#6 - 2015-04-16 19:55:41 UTC  |  Edited by: James Baboli
Nolen Cadmar wrote:
+1. Pretty sure this has been proposed before. I'd love to see personal wallet divisions.

Repeatedly. It is usually given a bit of support, and closed promptly under rule 17.

This said, I am one of the people who supports it, but would like it to be a skill to add additional tabs. I proposed the exact skill I'd like in a thematically linked thread here

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Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-04-16 20:49:20 UTC
Ddolik wrote:
Hello,

Please make personal wallet like corporation wallet, where you can make labbel, name them and put some % of your income to these labbels, please


-1 for the idea
-1 for not using the search function

and vote 4 close
Iain Cariaba
#8 - 2015-04-16 22:16:20 UTC
Fail to see why this is necessary. Corp wallets are divided as they are so that corp assets can be used by people with differing roles without having access to the entirety of the corp's assets. If you really need to keep yourself from spending all your isk, don't keep it all on your shopping alt.
Mr ApE
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-05-19 23:30:40 UTC
+1 Would be similar to irl accounts many people use.

One account for your "visa card" - for your everyday shopping, ig: modules, ammo, some ships etc.
One savings account - for that little something you are longing for but can't afford on a single payout.

Pros:
- For new pilots to save for their first battleship.
- For skilled pilots to save for that cool capital.
- For all traders that already has a second division, but it's an alt they have to log on and its main function is being a wallet division.
- A vacation to New Eden to see The Eve Gate - the source of all life in the Eve cluster.
- Or just for everyone to easily keep track of income and outcome, how much they have to spend on necessary things and how much of their profits they can save each month.
- For pilots doing a little bit of everything to help them keep track of and separate the isk made from missions, ratting, incursions, mining etc. Great for new pilots who haven't found their call yet.

Cons:
Dunno? Please add some constructive cons if you have any.
I have yet to hear any good argument to not implement this.

As someone said this has been a subject of discussion for a long time https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Personal_wallet_divisions_(CSM) dated 2009. Not sure if that TBD means "to be developed" or "to be discussed" or maybe "torpedo boat destroyer". But afaik it was never done.

The corp wallet fails to fill this function for the single pilot who wants to save their own isk for some goal or whatever, giving every corp member their own corp wallet division makes no sense.
Using an alt as a division is ofc possible, but why would it be needed when the solution could be so much easier? And how would adding divisions to personal wallets have any cons to overall gameplay that "bank alts" doesn't already entails?
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-05-20 05:57:28 UTC
Adding personal wallet tabs would remove the need for many people to have their own 1 man corp. We are playing a MMO so personal 1 man corp should not be something you feel you have to use
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#11 - 2015-05-20 06:24:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Haatakan Reppola wrote:
Adding personal wallet tabs would remove the need for many people to have their own 1 man corp. We are playing a MMO so personal 1 man corp should not be something you feel you have to use

It does not really as you still need the corporation for all sorts of things, from POS, Pocos, corporation market orders to organizing your alts.

However, in the beginning, when I haven't had my little social group, I would have rather preferred to have one or two divisions in my personal wallet to store away some excess money instead of having to transfer it to the corporation wallet and then transfer it back when I needed it. That's rather clunky. Now, after some years of doing just that and with several alts doing it, I don't really care anymore.

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Northern Accounts and Systems
#12 - 2015-05-20 16:35:40 UTC
I would also love personal wallet divisions, that way when you cant remember last nights roam you also probably cant remember there was a second wallet to empty while you were out.

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Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-05-21 09:18:22 UTC
Ddolik wrote:
Hello,

Please make personal wallet like corporation wallet, where you can make labbel, name them and put some % of your income to these labbels, please


Sounds like somebody got scammed :D

no

-1
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-05-21 22:14:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Tabyll Altol wrote:
Ddolik wrote:
Hello,

Please make personal wallet like corporation wallet, where you can make labbel, name them and put some % of your income to these labbels, please


Sounds like somebody got scammed :D

no

-1




where are you seeing getting scammed at? That's readily stopped reading at the contract level or local spam message.


Why I have my 1 man and why I back this idea...I have specific tabs. To simplify accounting in game I had when I did it in the past the indy tab. CBA to fire up the spreadsheet or find notes for build costs I go to tab, see what I went to jita with for a budget, see what I left with, subtract and voila....the cost of materials for the 2 say blops I made. Now I in game determine sell prices.

For this feature my one man corp has tied up a name a real player crew may have liked. Why I back this idea. Lots of one mans exist because of tab accounting only. Lets get some names back to people who actually care my basis for this besides giving people a nice convenience feature.

We can't even argue well this makes me accessible to war dec. I used the always loved neut hauler. My indy has region build skills. And ccp long ago took away the reason this char undocked. this done when datacore emphasis shifted to FW and empire farming nerfed to the ground. In short....this char doesn't undock and you'd have to guess then gank my hauler.
Rock Kick-Ass
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2015-06-22 15:07:53 UTC
make it a skill in the Trade tree. 1 division per level with a possible secondary skill for more divisions. marketers could finally divide their sell order funds from their buy order funds to get a better grasp on their actual revenue flow with out having to use a 3rd party spreadsheet. it would also let you put a spending cap on your buy orders as well so you don't break the bank when logged off. the only thing i see this affecting negatively is the jita 1,000,000.00 vs 1,000,000,000.00 contract scams.

the whole start your own corp idea seems a bit extreme to just get a wallet division.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#16 - 2015-06-22 15:14:40 UTC
This would also be useful as someone who does industry on the side, without being in their own alt corp. Having separate wallet divisions for manufacturing costs, research costs, and trade expenses would make it a bit easier to track the flow-through of ISK without having to resort to spreadsheets and other third-party software.

It is, admittedly, not the best choice, as third-party software will always provide a much more detailed look at things, but it can still be very useful for a more casual player who doesn't have the time or inclination to make a bunch of spreadsheets for it.

It could also allow players to separate their ISK into PvP funds, PLEX funds, and similar, would allow them to set a bit aside as a rainy-day fun without it sitting in the main wallet, or any other reason a person might want to have funds separate from their individual wallet without having to keep track of things in an external program.

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vikari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-06-22 16:17:44 UTC
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#18 - 2015-06-22 16:49:17 UTC
vikari wrote:
This idea has already been suggested dozens of times, even back to 2011 :

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5614463#post5614463

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5013346#post5013346

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5188344#post5188344

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4965891#post4965891

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2230245#post2230245

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=28690#post28690

Reported for redundant idea.

This is currently the only open thread on the topic, not counting the Little Ideas thread where discussion tends not to take place. Are we not allowed to have a thread open on something that people seem to want?

Admittedly, the original poster of this thread, Ddolik, seems to be a bit of a troll, but that doesn't change this thread currently being the only open one on the subject. If there are issues with it being a troll thread, then perhaps Rock Kick-Ass' thread could be reopened.

It's only fair to have at least one open thread for potential discussion, is it not?

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-06-22 17:28:37 UTC
The problem is that this is one of those ideas that loses steam pretty fast. People fall into a small range of camps on it - the yes, I need this camp, I won't use it, but why not camp, and then No I hate change/stop sucking camp.

The idea gets some general support, but the thread dies out pretty quickly because it's not really a hot debate topic. I've posted about it and supported it myself in the past.

Keep asking for it, I say. One day we may get it.

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Rock Kick-Ass
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2015-06-22 20:23:07 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
The problem is that this is one of those ideas that loses steam pretty fast. People fall into a small range of camps on it - the yes, I need this camp, I won't use it, but why not camp, and then No I hate change/stop sucking camp.

The idea gets some general support, but the thread dies out pretty quickly because it's not really a hot debate topic. I've posted about it and supported it myself in the past.

Keep asking for it, I say. One day we may get it.



I have seen CCP make changes with less player support, i just want it to remain visible long enough for the right people to see it.

as one guy pointed out people have been posting this request as far back as 2011. well, if it keeps coming up over the last 4 years, i would think that would be proof that it warrants a discussion.
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