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Thanks Falcon for replying c: *hugs* And it's great to see the numbers have been dropped down to 150 again c:
I do have some follow up questions though, if you don't mind;

Why a watermark if the top right concord logo absolutely works fine? The watermark image could actually cause problems for the renderer, and if it is placed manually as a filter to not disturb the edges, then this takes away work hours, right? Especially when people submit their logo several times until they get it right. So wouldn't the top right Concord Emblem be the easiest and most convenient way? Like a government stamp of approval?

So that means we don't know yet how big the Concord sign on the top right is going to be? Wait, that is horribly confusing... I thought the submissions are already open and can be posted or did I get something wrong? D: So that means the size and placement of the Concord logo is already decided, isn't it?

The only reason I asked is, it would make the life of the people post-processing these images easier, wouldn't it? c: Especially now since you said UPSCALE I'm already horrified of broken edges and blurry textures and it wants me to make sure to have a crisp 640x640 and 1024x1024 image at hand :c
I just want to make sure that my message was not read as "hurr durr CCP can't art" but instead as "I don't want to waste CCP employee time so if I can provide them OPTIONALLY with more than they ask for, it can't be bad, right?" c:

Another thing from my follow up message, which is really important in this case;
What about the re-use of images already in the game? In the case of CAStabouts, will that still be okay as it was before?

Because:
The CAS logo is clearly embossed, has extra effects on it, including blurry bloom. So what should I do here? Just upload the plain version and hope it gets embossified? I'd rather hope that I can submit a clean version AND an "this is how I imagine it to be" version so the person editing it will have an easier time.

The other problem is, you say don't use these effects... but what if people just draw them by hand? Embossing something with highlights and shadows using a lighter and darker gradient of the same colour is not difficult. In the end, in terms of the renderer, my bet is on smooth edges. If those are fine, then the rest inside shouldn't be all that problematic if there is no alpha channel inside, right?

And here is something to consider about the entire "flat" player submissions versus "embossed" NPC corporations;



Flat and sleek isn't exactly grimdark dystopian. So the UI already conflicts with that theme, while the NPC corporation logos keep a great vibe of it. I love them, please don't change them :c
If you really want us to make flat ones in order to apply your own version of grimdark, then please consider what I said above with optional additional submissions to give an idea of how we want to have them look edited. I'm sure there are plenty of people who want to keep just the same vibe that Eve has c:

Glad to hear.

Is it really so hard to get CCP Lawyerdude to log on and post in this thread rather than us all spamming the same questions to their email inbox? It is plain bizarre that we have you in this thread telling us that you can't answer our questions but not the people who are in a position to answer.

CCP would already own the derivative work, provided that the derived work is "sufficiently unique". What they may lack is permission from the copyright holder of the original work to create the derivative. And lacking that permission, it would be straightforward for that original copyright holder to enjoin CCP from distributing the derived work which CCP owns. As I indicated elsewhere, IP law is divorced from "common sense".

It appears to me that CCP lawyers are providing very strange advice to CCP. Or perhaps CCP is executing poorly from that advice. I, Primary This Rifter, Arrendis, and others are trying to point this out.

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im guessing by submitting the logo you are giving permission for ccp to create a deriative works, if you dont give permission then dont upload its not rocket science.

nobody can know every single logo and the copyright owner so ccp cant take responsibity for someone uploading something which is copyrighted already if something copyrighted was used by ccp then the simple thing that would happen would be they were asked to remove it, and ccp would remove it and probably fall back on the original uploader, similar situation to the likes of stock image websites, themeforest etc when someone uploads someone elses work.

im a designer and personally see no issue with this as ccp are not using it for any financial gain, quizing the legal process over something so minor is just gonna to force ccp to just close the whole submission process again because people are never happy

So many space lawyers.

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That was hard. I spent literally seconds looking for it.

Edit: This thread is like a train wreck. I try to look away but it keeps drawing me back in.

Those two beat me to it c: I was about to say... first think I did was clicking "public relations" and then I scrolled down to the bottom. And wooosh! informatiooooooon!
I mean, seriously, have people become so lazy? :c

Well okay, maybe not "people". That is a bad generalization. Maybe... "those people"... would be more inclusive. I guess? Not wanting to insult the three people including myself who proved a single person how easy it was to get the required info c:

So you can submit the same aliance log twice, have a different art director review it and one will determine it's not to their taste while the other might just approve it. Just as with support tickets, depending on who reviews your case it might get approved or denied?


To be fair, if the bee image survived from earth to EVE (even if extinct and like the jaguar or wolf it's just a mythological creature) is it that hard to imagine a dystopian setting where people use bright colors and cartoony images for shock value, to lift the spirits of their members or any other reason?

Same as with pink ship skins. Capsuleers are megalomaniac hedonistic mass murderers almost without exception according to the lore. So it's pretty much a given that a capsuleer empire should be able to arrange for pink ships or genocide all planets that produce non-pink colours.