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Mario Putzo
#21 - 2015-04-15 22:03:01 UTC
This is why CCP should just get rid of War Decs, and make people who want Concord Protection pay for it. Constant ongoing Wars is harassment. Removing the War Dec system removes potential for harassment through WD mechanics. If everyone is in a constant state of War than there can be no harassment.

Down with Wardecs!
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2015-04-16 01:22:03 UTC
You know, some people's harassment is others' business model.
If the corp perma-deccing is a merc corp there is a pretty good chance that they were hired by someone else to make this happen. Someone else who is likely very unhappy with said 2 person corp.
If it's not a merc corp, then odds are good that someone stepped on someone else's toes in a big way.
If it's Cannibal Kane I recommend paying the man.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2015-04-16 01:27:05 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Change corporations


Just want to say this is bullsh*t.

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Never.


And this is too.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#24 - 2015-04-16 01:31:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
If you're the defender use the ally mechanic (if it's still available). There are people out there that will ally with you for free, because they like good fights and shooting other people in the face.

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Miss Dallocort
Doomheim
#25 - 2015-04-16 01:39:13 UTC
Honestly I love that the sandbox allows for this kind of thing and that if they wardec ever industry corp more haulers will be used and maybe the market prices will increase but when it's my corp getting held up it's more than annoying. Especially now that my weekly profit is less than 500m when I was brining in around 6b.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#26 - 2015-04-16 01:43:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Miss Dallocort wrote:
I was brining in around 6b.
That's as good a reason as any to wardec you; somebody else is now taking some of your market share, the profit they're making would more than pay for the cost of keeping you out of operation for a while.

I wouldn't be surprised if the ransom just went up too, regardless of whether or not you pay it.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#27 - 2015-04-16 01:49:41 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
If your alt can cloaky camp, put them in a system that the deccers commonly use and leave them logged in and cloaked, 23/7.

Err why? So they know not to ever bother running locates on you and that you're a total non-threat? If that's what you're going for by all means, do this.

Also either actually fight back, hire mercenaries to do it for you or pay for the surrender. Doing any of those things will be more effective and more entertaining than sitting there passively taking a shafting.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#28 - 2015-04-16 02:12:24 UTC
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Honestly I love that the sandbox allows for this kind of thing and that if they wardec ever industry corp more haulers will be used and maybe the market prices will increase but when it's my corp getting held up it's more than annoying. Especially now that my weekly profit is less than 500m when I was brining in around 6b.
Use your ISK to empower yourself. Buy an alt that can do the same thing as you and put it on the same account.
Then don't worry about the war, just keep seeing if it is over yet and keep making your ISK. Blink

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#29 - 2015-04-16 02:22:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Also either actually fight back, hire mercenaries to do it for you or pay for the surrender. Doing any of those things will be more effective and more entertaining than sitting there passively taking a shafting.

It's a two-character indy Corp that's already shown they aren't going to pay 300 mill to surrender, or fight back.

So they aren't likely to pay mercs to wardec the wardeccers, or fight back themselves.

Yes, it'd be a lot more fun for more people, but not likely going off the OP of this specific thread.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#30 - 2015-04-16 02:27:19 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Also either actually fight back, hire mercenaries to do it for you or pay for the surrender. Doing any of those things will be more effective and more entertaining than sitting there passively taking a shafting.

It's a two-character indy Corp that's already shown they aren't going to pay 300 mill to surrender, or fight back.

So they aren't likely to pay mercs to wardec the wardeccers, or fight back themselves.

Yes, it'd be a lot more fun for more people, but not likely going off the OP of this specific thread.


I have trouble justifying the existence of such corps.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#31 - 2015-04-16 02:27:34 UTC
So if he's not going to do anything his options consist of "Sit there and take the D" or "Sit there and take the D".
Miss Dallocort
Doomheim
#32 - 2015-04-16 02:30:26 UTC
=D
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#33 - 2015-04-16 02:31:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
So if he's not going to do anything his options consist of "Sit there and take the D" or "Sit there and take the D".

No his best option is to drop to an NPC Corp and continue on. The only inconvenience of that is paying NPC taxes and waiting a week to join a Corp again.

I wish it wasn't possible to dodge like that, but the game mechanics allow and it's the best approach for this OP.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#34 - 2015-04-16 02:34:07 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I have trouble justifying the existence of such corps.

Me too frankly, but it is what it is.

Not much for him to do but use the available game mechanics to his advantage.

Hopefully they eventually change.
Miss Dallocort
Doomheim
#35 - 2015-04-16 02:37:06 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I have trouble justifying the existence of such corps.

Me too frankly, but it is what it is.

Not much for him to do but use the available game mechanics to his advantage.

Hopefully they eventually change.



Small corporations are useful for people that don't want to join a huge group but that have the isk to support their activites with pos's and other things that require corps to do.
Zealous Miner
Doomheim
#36 - 2015-04-16 02:47:16 UTC
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Small corporations are useful for people that don't want to join a huge group but that have the isk to support their activites with pos's and other things that require corps to do.

Guess you've never heard of the phrase "Strength in numbers."

One of the downsides of being in a small corporation is that you are a prime target for pirates and certain unsavory fellows who would like to ruin your day. Sorry, but this is the cost of the decisions you have made in this game.

Speaking of which: Where is Cannibal Kane at?What?

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Maki Osa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2015-04-16 05:25:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Maki Osa
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Honestly I love that the sandbox allows for this kind of thing and that if they wardec ever industry corp more haulers will be used and maybe the market prices will increase but when it's my corp getting held up it's more than annoying. Especially now that my weekly profit is less than 500m when I was brining in around 6b.



Wait, you were making 6 billion, but won't pay 300 million (or hire someone to take out the trash for you?) and as a result are losing 5.5 billion in profit?
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#38 - 2015-04-16 05:30:48 UTC
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what a waste of isk
Rastafarian God
#39 - 2015-04-16 05:43:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Rastafarian God
This is called Milking. We've had this happen more times then I can count. There are a lot of people that just go down the list and dec EVERYONE that is smaller then they are. The fact that they are sticking with it this long is odd though.

They are trying to milk 2 things. Isk and kills. Do not give them either for any reason and do not respond to them at all under any circumstances. Make them think you are not even aware of what they are doing other then the fact they can never find you in space.

the fact that they are still deccing you leads me to believe that you have exchanged E-mails, or chatted back and forth. STOP THAT!! They will get bored and move along. People like this usually have several decs at one time.

Although people that do it to us quickly find out that they only suffer losses from straggers or nothing at all. But we PVP. and are sneaky as ****. For you.. Just make them think you dont play and they will stop.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#40 - 2015-04-16 06:03:39 UTC
Anyone consider this is actually the War Deccers alt, posting here to scare people into paying the ransom to avoid perma decs and loss of income?
Just a stray thought given their posting seems to be making it sound worse and worse every time they post.