EVE General Discussion

Doesn't help new players, only old ones.

It's effectively the same as the old “profession” starts (back when picking race/ancestry/school was a thing), only with even greater opportunity to pick the wrong thing because you have no idea what you're doing. SP remapping in particular has such a hideously large potential for abuse that the only real way to make it “safe” is to impose so many restrictions on it that it will never be of any use, at which point you might as well not bother to implement it to begin with.

The problem is one of fundamentally incorrect perception. It cannot be fixed through mechanical means, and should not be fixed by pandering to that perception. It can only be fixed by educating those who hold it about the fact that their belief is wrong.

The perception that you have to wait for two days is indeed incorrect.

If they do experience such issues, it's probably something they should take up with their bank or ISP since that's a more likely cause.

And do 15 DPS

I conclude that you have already figured out the immensity of your ignorance about the game since you have to come out guns blazing with the personal insults rather than admit that, oops, you made a laughably pitiful excuse for an attempted point.

Moving the goalposts does not change the fact that on your first day, you can fly a ship that will make Ishtars cry. I'm sorry if you never learned this, but that is precisely why incorrect perceptions are the only problem here, and why education is the only solution.

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People that have been playing EVE for awhile are not like your normal MMO player. Playing EVE changes you. Ive been playing since 2009, most of that time with 2 and now 3 non plexed accounts.

People that play EVE, or at least the ones that understand it, develop a prison mentality. No one is to be trusted, everyone is your enemy, and you need to find a gang to be part of to get by. If you are seen as being weak, you will be eaten alive.

Thats why you never see chat in local out of trade hubs and if someone doesn't know you they are not usually friendly.

EVE is somewhere between the wild west and the Caribbean when ships had sails but set in space. This can turn people into pricks at times.

ALL of the regular forum posters have been playing for awhile. Most of them are only on here for entertainment. Entertainment in EVE usually means explosions and making people cry. It translates over to the forums sadly. People posting here know the game well and love the game. If you make a mistake, they will attack you.

It that right? in game most of the time, but in a forum, not always. Im actually one of the nicer, more friendly people around. I consider highsec off limits without a wardec but anywhere else, ill attack you if you make yourself vulnerable and I don't know you.

You just need to ask the right people and, yes, HTFU as well. You'd be better off asking questions in a noob corp or scope within the game then asking things here unless you learn to take things with a grain of salt.

Thats good and I'm glad to hear it.

Just remember the forum is NOT the game. Although ti mindset is similar.

Actually, most of the people that I play online with that I havnt met in real life I met in EVE. Benn 6 years now. We have eachothers phone numbers and know each other as well as real life friends. Stick with it

Good we finally got the answer I was looking for .... tbh that was a lot more traumatic than I expected, it was 'like pulling teeth'. I apologise to anyone who got upset there.
Anyway now we know what's wrong someone can figure out a solution. Most of the folk who won't play that I know think Eve is a completely different game from what it really is. I thought about it and the game has ever been harsh to me, can't think of one example. You die in games all the time I don't understand why folk get so upset about it, all you have to do is fly a boat that you can replace and if you get upset about losing implants then don't wear them. If some players are bored at the start waiting for skills give them something simple and repetitive to do while they are waiting, that'll give them the feel for flying about. Or whatever, you guys are the think-tank not me... just bear in mind that some folk take longer to catch on to games than others.

Oh stop being an ass ... and thank you.

Anyone who starts playing this game and jumps onto the forums or looks at eve guides will understand that immediatly and there is 'the problem' .You yourself stated you never visited the forums and many new players don't either and that's all fine and dandy in other games but in eve you need to do your homework and you need to do it often and thoroughly.Since i started playing eve i tend to go to the forums of any new game i plan to try before i even start it , just to get a feel of what the people who are playing have to say about the game and what the good and bad sides of the game are.

There is a special newbie section on the forums and older players give tips and advices there all the time.But if you don't ask the question then you don't get the answer .. or you get the answer yourself months later.Add to that that there are a big amount of new player friendly groups who will also, explain this to their new members.

Tippia is right there though .More started SP is something wich allready has been added as well as other feautures to make it easier yet the way new players view on the skillsystem and it's 'slow progression' has allways been the same.Granting more SP or anything of that matter will not help , not even if you give them 10M SP extra .Though i am sure the vest would love that for their alts .