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Miss Dallocort
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-04-15 19:34:32 UTC
Just wondering at what point a wardec continuing week after week after week........

is considered harassment if at all?


Imagine this as a high pvp orientated alliance wardecing a small industrial corporation (2 members)

The Wardec interrupts hauling but nothing that cant be handled with contracts.


The wardec is not planned to be stopped until a ransom is paid. There is nothing to stop them rewardecing though. -_-




Opinions?
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#2 - 2015-04-15 19:36:00 UTC
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Just wondering at what point a wardec continuing week after week after week........

is considered harassment if at all?


Imagine this as a high pvp orientated alliance wardecing a small industrial corporation (2 members)

The Wardec interrupts hauling but nothing that cant be handled with contracts.


The wardec is not planned to be stopped until a ransom is paid. There is nothing to stop them rewardecing though. -_-




Opinions?

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Someone war decced your npc corp? Petition for hacking.
Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2015-04-15 19:39:28 UTC
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Opinions?
Not enough periods.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#4 - 2015-04-15 19:42:51 UTC
Change corporations or go somewhere else like worm holes until they get bored.
Train up an alt.
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Black Pedro
Mine.
#5 - 2015-04-15 20:10:17 UTC
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Just wondering at what point a wardec continuing week after week after week........

is considered harassment if at all?


Imagine this as a high pvp orientated alliance wardecing a small industrial corporation (2 members)

The Wardec interrupts hauling but nothing that cant be handled with contracts.


The wardec is not planned to be stopped until a ransom is paid. There is nothing to stop them rewardecing though. -_-




Opinions?

What did you do to annoy someone enough to perma-wardec a 2 man corp? You probably should apologize for what ever it was you did, pay them some ransom and let everyone move on.

I am sure that if you are not giving them fights and sort out the diplomatic issue that started this, they will be happy not to keep paying the 50M ISK per week and leave you alone.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2015-04-15 20:29:37 UTC
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Just wondering at what point a wardec continuing week after week after week........

is considered harassment if at all?


Imagine this as a high pvp orientated alliance wardecing a small industrial corporation (2 members)

The Wardec interrupts hauling but nothing that cant be handled with contracts.


The wardec is not planned to be stopped until a ransom is paid. There is nothing to stop them rewardecing though. -_-




Opinions?


Confirming that CAS is indeed a 2 man indy corp.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Miss Dallocort
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-04-15 20:44:35 UTC
Quote:

What did you do to annoy someone enough to perma-wardec a 2 man corp? You probably should apologize for what ever it was you did, pay them some ransom and let everyone move on.

I am sure that if you are not giving them fights and sort out the diplomatic issue that started this, they will be happy not to keep paying the 50M ISK per week and leave you alone.



Literally nothing.

We got a mail from them just after the wardec started stating that the wardec wouldn't be stopped until they received 300m isk.

I replied stating that we would not be paying the ransom for two reasons, 1, it wouldn't hinder our operations enough to warrant it and 2, there was nothing stopping them wardecing us again. I cant just go on their word.

I wouldn't have paid the ransom anyway, just encourag other people do then do it.

It's been 4 weeks so far. =D
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-04-15 20:46:23 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Just wondering at what point a wardec continuing week after week after week........

is considered harassment if at all?


Imagine this as a high pvp orientated alliance wardecing a small industrial corporation (2 members)

The Wardec interrupts hauling but nothing that cant be handled with contracts.


The wardec is not planned to be stopped until a ransom is paid. There is nothing to stop them rewardecing though. -_-




Opinions?


Confirming that CAS is indeed a 2 man indy corp.

Confirming if I was permadecced and wanted to ask this question I'd post from a character in the corp to draw more decs.

Then again I wouldn't as this question on the forums...
Iain Cariaba
#9 - 2015-04-15 20:48:58 UTC
So in two weeks you can laugh at them for spending more than they demanded in ransom on wardec fees.
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-04-15 20:49:54 UTC
We are not the ones that can answer this question. File a petition.
Miss Dallocort
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-04-15 21:04:33 UTC
I did make a support ticket to see what the GM would say but he said it was fine for them to continue it forever if they wanted. I was just asking on the forums to get some other peoples opinions.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#12 - 2015-04-15 21:08:10 UTC
Close the corp, open a new one. If they perpetually stalk you after you have made efforts to get away by changing corp, and changing region of space you operate in, then they actually are starting to tread on the harassment part of the EULA/ToS. Till you bother moving to that extent, it's not harassment.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#13 - 2015-04-15 21:14:58 UTC
Miss Dallocort wrote:
I did make a support ticket to see what the GM would say but he said it was fine for them to continue it forever if they wanted. I was just asking on the forums to get some other peoples opinions.
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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#14 - 2015-04-15 21:16:42 UTC
No, it isn't harassment to permadec your indy corp. That's the game mechanic needed for them to be able to shoot you in highsec without Concord, so it's perfectly fine for them to continue to pay that.

Best way to deal with it is to put an alt in the indy Corp as CEO (one that never undocks, or eve better one that can cloaky camp) and then drop Corp to NPC Corps for the other 2 characters. Bring them back in when the war is over (they have to wait a minimum of a week to join).

They pay NPC Corp taxes while waiting it out, but they will no longer be affected by the wardec.

The wardeccers will then just continue paying the fee until they see what has happened. If your alt can cloaky camp, put them in a system that the deccers commonly use and leave them logged in and cloaked, 23/7.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-04-15 21:27:24 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
So in two weeks you can laugh at them for spending more than they demanded in ransom on wardec fees.

This.

If you have an alt use it for the time being, play around with something new on a trial account also the new buddy link is for 30 days so you will have some screw around time.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Miss Dallocort
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-04-15 21:31:28 UTC
yeah, been doing some FW on an alt and playing GTA5
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#17 - 2015-04-15 21:42:20 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
So in two weeks you can laugh at them for spending more than they demanded in ransom on wardec fees.


I can't help thinking that the war-deccers probably get more ransoms paid than people willing to live with the war-dec.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#18 - 2015-04-15 21:48:45 UTC
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Just wondering at what point a wardec continuing week after week after week........

is considered harassment if at all?


Never.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#19 - 2015-04-15 21:53:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
Three and a half years going and my little 2-man Corp never got decced. Probably has something to do with the fact that we know when to shut up in local (always!) and when to keep a low profile (always!).

The high quality of my posts here on the forums undoubtly help as well!

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HiltoftheDragons
Grievance3
#20 - 2015-04-15 22:02:20 UTC
Miss Dallocort wrote:
Quote:

What did you do to annoy someone enough to perma-wardec a 2 man corp? You probably should apologize for what ever it was you did, pay them some ransom and let everyone move on.

I am sure that if you are not giving them fights and sort out the diplomatic issue that started this, they will be happy not to keep paying the 50M ISK per week and leave you alone.



Literally nothing.

We got a mail from them just after the wardec started stating that the wardec wouldn't be stopped until they received 300m isk.

I replied stating that we would not be paying the ransom for two reasons, 1, it wouldn't hinder our operations enough to warrant it and 2, there was nothing stopping them wardecing us again. I cant just go on their word.

I wouldn't have paid the ransom anyway, just encourag other people do then do it.

It's been 4 weeks so far. =D


Do not pay that ransom...no matter what. Dont give in to folks like that. They are planning on you giving in and making a profit off you. As mention by the other posters, make an alt the ceo and drop from the corp or go play on another toon.

Destiny always seems decades away, but suddenly it's not decades away; it's right now. But maybe destiny is always right now, right here, right this very instant, maybe.
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