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Any chance we could get a definite yes or no regarding whether or not our logo will be accepted? It's been around for years, we aren't planning on changing it. Hints are all fine and dandy but here you're implying we'll be fine even though our logo goes against the new guidelines. So will it be OK because of its history, or will it not because of the new rules?

Unfortunately, this change also eliminates some of the more iconic alliance logos in the game because of the alliance size limitation and prevents iconic alliances from ever having logos for the same reason. Examples: Rote Kapelle, Psychotic Tendencies, tourney winner Verge of Collapse, and tourney favorite Outbreak. will all lose their logos. Unfortunately, this change prevents iconic alliances that happen to be small from ever having logos. Examples: perennial tournament favorites Hydra Reloaded and The Camel Empire won't be eligible for logos.

EDIT: Whoops! Missed the bit about smaller alliances with existing logos being allowed to resubmit their existing logos. The question about Hydra/Camel still stands, though.

I would kind of be interested in a specific statement about the LAWN logo, though. LAWN's logo p.much breaks every single rule that Falcon specified, from its cute font to its bright colors to its cartoony nature to its recognizable and anachronistic lawn gnome. Assuming it was resubmitted in its current state but following the new technical requirements, would it be accepted? And would it be accepted only because it's an existing alliance?

Can we please at least have the ability to create alliance logos using the in game tools the same way we do with corp logos? I get that CCP doesn't have the staff to approve a logo for every vanity alliance in the game and the minimum sizes aren't going away, but it'd be nice if we could get rid of the five pointed star at least.

I can assure you that the art directors who will be reviewing these logo submissions are most likely entirely unaware of, let alone unbiased by, any in-game politics.

What if you restricted custom logos to Corporations of a certain size and age? If a corporation has lasted for, say, 8 years and have a large number of players, wouldn't it be nice to have them get a little extra?

Beyond preventing offensive or pornographic material, I don't see why there should be any guidelines for style and substance.

If there's anything to be as hands off as possible about, it's the custom banners that players choose to fly under.

Also, it's kind of dumb to have alliances named things like "Test Alliance Please Ignore" but then require the logo to be "grim, dark, and spacey"

Only complaint really is the alliance size. Should be 150 to 200.

Only real complaint

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Restricting creativity with some of these rules is a foolish mistake.

Especially when more or less every CCP response is either "see how arbitrarily we apply our rules" or "you should know what we really mean /passiveaggressivegirlfriend"

I'm guessing (disclaimer: I Am Not A Lawyer) it's because CCP is intending to sell our alliance logos back to us for real money/Aurum , likely as add-ons to the new ship-skinning system, and so they need to jump through that particular hoop because they can't sell us something that they don't own. That's pretty much the only way any of this makes sense - when EA Sports makes a new FIFA game and they include the Manchester United team with the Chevrolet logo across the players' kits, that doesn't mean that EA Sports has legal ownership of the Chevrolet logo.

The only other possible explanation is that Icelandic IP laws are REALLY weird.