EVE General Discussion

Code suck anyway they need to grow a set and stop believing they are elite for shooting undefended mining barges, go find something that can actually fight back...

Just my opinion

After almost three years of doing this its still interesting to see people who think the New Order is trying to force players into either a narrow play style or otherwise leave the game. Despite our Agents adapting the various mechanics of the game, from bumping to awoxing to wardecs to corp theft and of course ganking to our goal we get accused of forcing "one" play style.

Others have already pointed out that the OP's playstyle is actually to not play at all but even in the case of the miner who actually sits there and watches the lasers we are actually educating more than forcing. And what are we teaching them?

1) Highsec is not safe. Not exactly an astonishing revelation yet we have the OP who seems to think we have somehow broken CCP's intentions.

2) You are not alone. A single server MMO and people think they are playing by themselves.

3) You are not elite. People think that making lots of ISK is winning Eve. Whole websites talk about it. Good for them. The New Order shows the miners that ISK in their wallet is much less a sign of competence than ISK we destroy. What takes them days or weeks to accumulate we destroy in seconds. Even when you are making ISK you are losing the game because we can take it from you whenever we choose.

4) CCP won't save you. Wouldn't a rational person realize that the fact that we have been doing this for so long... and so successfully... means that CCP is just fine with our game play. They consider us neither toxic or harmful to the game. Recently they admitted that activities like ours seem to enhance player retention. Which is what we have been saying all along.

5) and this is the most important. This is the truth that many players never aquire. The truth that opens Eve into something you don't experience anywhere else. The truth that makes it worth playing. And it is this. Miners exist to be targets. There is no in-game reason for them to exist other than to be destroyed. CCP could put the ore and ice right into the market, control supply and demand, create gluts and shortages all WITHOUT the miners. But instead, they strew it out into space and let the players who have no better thing to do go collect it. All while sitting in a stationary location, easily located by the pvpers and in ships that MUST succumb to a sufficiently organized attack fleet. Mining is an elegant solution to the problem of how do you get some players to fly ships full of expensive fittings and materials for the other players to kill. Its pretty brilliant when you think about it. The miners CHOOSE to go out in the ships that the pvpers like to shoot. CCP doesn't even have to make them do it. They just toss out the ore or ice and the targets flock to it. CCP even allows them to be AFK. Doesn't that tell you what the intention is?

So, here is where we come in. The New Order of Highsec exists to reveal this truth to the players, especially the new ones, who have been harmed by being told that highsec mining is an actual profession and one that they should aspire to. The lie that CONCORD will protect them and that the gankers are "toxic" but you can ignore them and that literally MONTHS of watching rocks melt is required in order to be able to, as so many carebear CEO's claim "grab a piece of null-sec and make a name for ourselves". James 315 is the Savior of Highsec and he has saved thousands of miners by the simple method of getting them to quit BEING miners. We are almost through year three of what James has predicted to be an eight year project. When we are done everyone will follow the Code throughout highsec.

This is probably a lot ot digest if you haven't been to www.minerbumping.com and gone through the wealth of information available there. I recommend it more than reading these forums as on minerbumping you will get the truth without the self serving agenda's so many posters here have. As I said, thousands have been saved by minerbumping. No one has been saved by reading the anti-Code ravings here.

One of the core rules of playing poker is that if you don't know who the rube is... its you. Miners, educate yourselves.

Highsec is worth fighting for.

And he's gone to Doomheim... maybe that should be Trollheim or something?

Very true, and I make a good profit from them too. But there's also great asteroids in 0.7 space where I can leave some drones to protect me from rats while I spend half an hour in the back yard with the kids trying to catch butterflys :)