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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#201 - 2015-04-15 08:01:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Oh I missed the Falcon Punch!

Well ... what are you going to do now?
As predicted, you won't get a thing. :)

Your hate yielded nothing.

Thanks for being here!
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#202 - 2015-04-15 08:08:47 UTC
Ecklectrix wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
Ecklectrix wrote:
They got paid for a service that was not provided. Yes they did.

And if CCP suffered damages, they are within their right to persue the party that caused the DDOS attacks and seek damages from them, that however, is not my problem.


true you paid them, still no proof that they benefited from this, for all we know you are the one who chose not to avail their services. Smile

how can they be sure that you are indeed trying to log-in for real? after all their servers are fine. maybe you are just riding the wave and just want to seize the oppurtunity to take an advantage?

again, the burden of proof is on you, try again. Lol


do you even know how a contract works?

I actually don't need to prove anything to you, your dis-Honor.

So, you go buy something online. The company mails you the product using a carrier service. The package is stolen in transit. Who is liable?

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Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#203 - 2015-04-15 08:09:29 UTC
Ecklectrix wrote:
I am not your son.


That much is obvious since I would never tolerate that sort of behaviour.
Ecklectrix
#204 - 2015-04-15 08:14:38 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
Oh I missed the Falcon Punch!

Well ... what are you going to do now?
As predicted, you won't get a thing. :)

Your hate yielded nothing.

Thanks for being here!



Your hate is yielding what exactly?
You seem to be a serial bullier. Does it make you feel better to treat people this way, what motivates you?

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A
Ecklectrix
#205 - 2015-04-15 08:15:24 UTC
Vicky Somers wrote:
Ecklectrix wrote:
I am not your son.


That much is obvious since I would never tolerate that sort of behaviour.


Then keep your condescending remarks to yourself, or accept that you are an internet bully.

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A
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Galactic Rangers
#206 - 2015-04-15 08:17:59 UTC
the moment this guy posted his shite everyone knew it's just the same shite different day,, give me stuff CCP or i will (insert random threat)

if any legal action was ever going to happen it would never have been spoken about on the forums.

some people are just never happy, i had a guy in corp once who got DC'd 3 time in one week after playing for a year with no trouble, he went nuts, CCP went out of their way to help the guy, they proved to him that it was his ISP at fault.

he quit the game,,,,, lol

best bit......


he lost 3 batteleships to npc's over this. he gave everything he had to corp.

when i was finished collecting it,, there was well over 20 billion worth of shite and he was pissed over 3 battleships...Roll

some people are just never happy.

i work in supprt myself Blink some people think we're sitting around waiting just for them to ring in for help, sure i have a team of 20 guys to just drop everything and come running to rub your forehead and calm you down when you can't understand why a third party event that's got nothing to do with us and is out of our control has denied you access to an external server.

like i said,,, same shite different day. Lol
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#207 - 2015-04-15 08:20:06 UTC
cant everyone just draw a line under this and sort it all out in a big bubble in nullsec somewhere Roll

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#208 - 2015-04-15 08:24:51 UTC
Ecklectrix wrote:


In fact it seems to me the DDOS attacks are in direct response to policy changes made recently by CCP. These policy changes (which I happen to agree with for the record) make the game environment better, but have obviously had additional unforseen consequences by alienating people that have decided to take illegal action against CCP. Again, not my fault, and yet the money I pay to CCP is now affected as a result.


Objection your honor!

I would think someone so well versed with the law (as you claim) would know the difference between fact and speculation. Your supposition is not grounds to build a case.

Quote:

It is also not great that it takes days to get a response when all that was required was a simple statement from someone in an official capacity. In addition their support ticket system not working.


You didn't get an immediate response because you're off your rocker thinking CCP is at fault for internet issues. Like I said before, you're not the first to think this, and you won't be the last. Unfortunately in your case, ignorance seems to be winning out despite all the knowledge we've tried to impart to you.

Quote:

I can see you are all celebrating and dancing around, and this is the kind of behaviour I expect from the eve community. Just explain to me how you consider that to be acceptable behaviour?

I just wonder how far you will push someone else with less thick skin than I have?

Go about your day, by tomorrow you will forget I even exist.


Nope, it's tomorrow, you've been told by every single person in this thread, including CCP Falcon, that you're barking up the wrong tree.

The amusement continues.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#209 - 2015-04-15 08:27:29 UTC
tbh honest he probably didnt get an fast response because he is probably not the only person trying to get something for free from ccp

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Dots
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#210 - 2015-04-15 08:27:43 UTC

Ecklectrix wrote:

In fact it seems to me the DDOS attacks are in direct response to policy changes made recently by CCP. These policy changes (which I happen to agree with for the record) make the game environment better, but have obviously had additional unforseen consequences by alienating people that have decided to take illegal action against CCP. Again, not my fault, and yet the money I pay to CCP is now affected as a result.


Granted I've only passed my FYLSE and not the CBX (I'll take my first crack at it in July), it seems like to me you make similar mistakes as people who haven't taken a single law course.

CCP's liability is closely associated only with (1) the health of their server, and (2) any direct and adverse contribution CCP's hardware may have had to its network connection with your client. Outside of that, it sets a very bad legal/financial precedent for CCP to take some indirect responsibility for (1) people DDOSing, (2) internet servers losing connections with each other, and (3) your specific hardware faults.

Why? Because CCP has no ability to figure out everything that is happening outside of the hardware and network environment that they directly control and own. This limited information will allow these people who are DDOSing CCP to effectively milk CCP for virtual assets and/or server time. It opens the doorway for anyone to walk in and claim a "loss", and CCP is put in a position of honoring it even if they have no ability to collect information to verify what is being claimed.

There is no legal burden here. This is not a customer support issue. CCP runs a business which is primarily delivered over the network. Other people are illegally interfering with that delivery, which makes CCP a victim. No legal system worth its salt is in the business of extorting a payment from a victim to satisfy a consumer.

On a side note, Ecklectrix.. you really seem to be alienating other people by arguing the way that you are. Even if you were right, from a legal or ethical point of view - I've said above why you're not - you are undermining your position with the way you are communicating.

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#211 - 2015-04-15 08:29:45 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
cant everyone just draw a line under this and sort it all out in a big bubble in nullsec somewhere Roll

Uhm... this coming from you after being asked to stop it several pages ago ....

Yeah, right. It's your fault it got that far in the first place,
because you just had to keep eating it.

This is GD. The OP knows it, deliberately spreads hate,
denies everything as if it wasn't blatantly obvious
and ... well ... my next thread will address this I guess.

And you know what? You will hate it,
because you are a part of the problem.
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#212 - 2015-04-15 08:31:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Anyhow....


CCP FALCON SAID NO!
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STFU ALREADY AND STOP EATING THE BAIT???

THE CASE IS CLOSED! EXPLAINING SOMEONE WHO DELIBERATELY BEHAVES LIKE THIS
WHY HE IS BEING UNREASONABLE IS NONSENSE!!!
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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#213 - 2015-04-15 08:33:11 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
cant everyone just draw a line under this and sort it all out in a big bubble in nullsec somewhere Roll

Uhm... this coming from you after being asked to stop it several pages ago ....

Yeah, right. It's your fault it got that far in the first place,
because you just had to keep eating it.

This is GD. The OP knows it, deliberately spreads hate,
denies everything as if it wasn't blatantly obvious
and ... well ... my next thread will address this I guess.

And you know what? You will hate it,
because you are a part of the problem.


really? i recall seeing you on various slandering posts so dont point the finger at others when your just as bad lol

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Ecklectrix
#214 - 2015-04-15 08:36:33 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
You didn't get an immediate response because you're off your rocker thinking CCP is at fault for internet issues. Like I said before, you're not the first to think this, and you won't be the last. Unfortunately in your case, ignorance seems to be winning out despite all the knowledge we've tried to impart to you.


I'm off my rocker am I? More bullying and insinuation, EULA applied when convenient apparantly.

Quote:
Nope, it's tomorrow, you've been told by every single person in this thread, including CCP Falcon, that you're barking up the wrong tree.


Oh really, so I posted this 30 minutes ago and it's tomorrow already? Thought there were 24 hours in a day?

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A
Ecklectrix
#215 - 2015-04-15 08:38:25 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
Anyhow....


CCP FALCON SAID NO!
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STFU ALREADY AND STOP EATING THE BAIT???

THE CASE IS CLOSED! EXPLAINING SOMEONE WHO DELIBERATELY BEHAVES LIKE THIS
WHY HE IS BEING UNREASONABLE IS NONSENSE!!!



I didnt ever ask you to explain, I asked CCP to explain.
In addition, I commented to point out that all of you mobbing me for asking a simple question is plain and simple bullying and gangstalking.
I actually thought you might get the picture rather than continue to bully.

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#216 - 2015-04-15 08:38:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Lan Wang wrote:
Eve Solecist wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
cant everyone just draw a line under this and sort it all out in a big bubble in nullsec somewhere Roll

Uhm... this coming from you after being asked to stop it several pages ago ....

Yeah, right. It's your fault it got that far in the first place,
because you just had to keep eating it.

This is GD. The OP knows it, deliberately spreads hate,
denies everything as if it wasn't blatantly obvious
and ... well ... my next thread will address this I guess.

And you know what? You will hate it,
because you are a part of the problem.


really? i recall seeing you on various slandering posts so dont point the finger at others when your just as bad lol

Not comparable. I told people this is pointless
and then tried to get the thread locked.
Instead I got removed.

You though constantly tried to "help" and "explain",
which is absolute nonsense considering the person you talked to.


It's not the haters who make GD bad. Just like with scammers,
if there wasn't victims, there would be no scamming.

Just look at the latest code propaganda thread. It's obvious as **** and
people just don't use their brain enough to realise.

Absolutely most people are easily to manipulate,
because they behave predictable!

The sad thing is that people REALLY need to be protected mostly from THEMSELVES.
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Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#217 - 2015-04-15 08:40:26 UTC
Ugh, please just lock this.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#218 - 2015-04-15 08:41:50 UTC
Vicky Somers wrote:
Ugh, please just lock this.

Seconded.
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Ecklectrix
#219 - 2015-04-15 08:43:43 UTC
and learn not to bully.
Forum is supposed to be a place where people can express their ideas, issue, problems whatever without having to deal with attacks from the likes of this rabble.

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A
Ecklectrix
#220 - 2015-04-15 08:44:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ecklectrix
Eve Solecist wrote:

Not comparable. I told people this is pointless
and then tried to get the thread locked.
Instead I got removed.

You though constantly tried to "help" and "explain",
which is absolute nonsense considering the person you talked to.


It's not the haters who make GD bad. Just like with scammers,
if there wasn't victims, there would be no scamming.

Just look at the latest code propaganda thread. It's obvious as **** and
people just don't use their brain enough to realise.

Absolutely most people are easily to manipulate,
because they behave predictable!

The sad thing is that people REALLY need to be protected mostly from THEMSELVES.


You are the worst offender with your name calling and hate speech, and defamatory insinuation constantly.

"If there wasn't victims, there would be no (insert transgression here)" This is just flawless logic, I have no idea why I wouldn't have listened to this sort of flawless reasoning earlier. One is a cause, and one is an effect. The cause comes before the effect. Figure it out.

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A