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Something to save time, and allow change.

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ADM Andria Ravencroft
United Excavation Services
#1 - 2015-04-14 16:52:44 UTC
As an advancing player in EVE online, I have often wondered why there is not an option to pay to have your skill points reset, allowing a player to respend already trained skill points.

This would allow one to change play styles and reduce the amount of time it takes to go from one style of game play to another.

Basicly for a fee of $30.00 to as much as $60.00 once every 30 days, a player could log into their account management website, and pay to have all their skill points reset. Except for the basic skill points a fresh character starts with, all current trained skill points would be removed from skills allowing the player to log in and re spend his or her points to the desired skills they wish to have benefits from.

As training skills is a matter of time, and money, starting out a player may want to try a bit of everything before they narrow down on a game style path. Being able to rest and re spend those skill points no longer going to be used will save them more time and allow them to move along quickly into their new choices.

I would gladly pay to have this done. As I have chosen to step away from mission running to go into industrial aspects of the game.

Would love to hear feedback from others and hope those who can make this happen see it's value.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2015-04-14 17:28:19 UTC
Because this is EVE, where your choices have consequences.

If the meta changes from the current sentry Ishtars and rail Tengus to something more like pulse Legions and arty Lokis, then it should not take a £15 payment to CCP to immediately change my skills from a perfect tengu pilot to a perfect legion pilot with absolutely no effort on my part.

if you make the choice to train Tengus over Legions in this situation, then you reap the consequences when the meta shifts.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#3 - 2015-04-14 17:40:00 UTC
ADM Andria Ravencroft wrote:
As an advancing player in EVE online, I have often wondered why there is not an option to pay to have your skill points reset, allowing a player to respend already trained skill points.

This would allow one to change play styles and reduce the amount of time it takes to go from one style of game play to another.

Basicly for a fee of $30.00 to as much as $60.00 once every 30 days, a player could log into their account management website, and pay to have all their skill points reset. Except for the basic skill points a fresh character starts with, all current trained skill points would be removed from skills allowing the player to log in and re spend his or her points to the desired skills they wish to have benefits from.

As training skills is a matter of time, and money, starting out a player may want to try a bit of everything before they narrow down on a game style path. Being able to rest and re spend those skill points no longer going to be used will save them more time and allow them to move along quickly into their new choices.

I would gladly pay to have this done. As I have chosen to step away from mission running to go into industrial aspects of the game.

Would love to hear feedback from others and hope those who can make this happen see it's value.

This is a terrible idea for many reasons but the most simplest is that it makes skill choices inconsequential. Allowing a respec, even for a monetary cost, would remove any individuality from characters as any 60M SP character is exactly the same as any other.

If it were to happen it would have to be in a limited form (not a complete reset) and at a penalty like 2:1 or 3:1 SP exchange. Personally, I think the value of the individuality and history of each character is more important than some impatient player moving a few million SPs around. If you want a new skill focus, start a new account/character or just head to the character bazaar and pick one up.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#4 - 2015-04-14 18:05:42 UTC
ADM Andria Ravencroft wrote:
As an advancing player in EVE online, I have often wondered why there is not an option to pay to have your skill points reset, allowing a player to respend already trained skill points.

This would allow one to change play styles and reduce the amount of time it takes to go from one style of game play to another.

Basicly for a fee of $30.00 to as much as $60.00 once every 30 days, a player could log into their account management website, and pay to have all their skill points reset. Except for the basic skill points a fresh character starts with, all current trained skill points would be removed from skills allowing the player to log in and re spend his or her points to the desired skills they wish to have benefits from.

As training skills is a matter of time, and money, starting out a player may want to try a bit of everything before they narrow down on a game style path. Being able to rest and re spend those skill points no longer going to be used will save them more time and allow them to move along quickly into their new choices.

I would gladly pay to have this done. As I have chosen to step away from mission running to go into industrial aspects of the game.

Would love to hear feedback from others and hope those who can make this happen see it's value.


How about if I could pay $30 to have all your skill points randomised?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

ADM Andria Ravencroft
United Excavation Services
#5 - 2015-04-14 19:47:38 UTC  |  Edited by: ADM Andria Ravencroft
I understand, the aspects of your disagreement.

But unlike most MMO's, a character going from one aspect of the game to a whole new aspect has little to no effect on the actual character itself. As the player still remains the same.
As far as Tech 3 ships go, if you don't hybrid then your just an idiot to begin with. As any good pilot in EVE knows Choices are key when it comes to Missions and to Pvp.
Limiting oneself to just one class of ships is kinda not worth it. When there are advantages to training and skilling all 4 classes.
By that I mean Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, and Minmatar class ships.
ADM Andria Ravencroft
United Excavation Services
#6 - 2015-04-14 20:14:31 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Because this is EVE, where your choices have consequences.

If the meta changes from the current sentry Ishtars and rail Tengus to something more like pulse Legions and arty Lokis, then it should not take a £15 payment to CCP to immediately change my skills from a perfect tengu pilot to a perfect legion pilot with absolutely no effort on my part.

if you make the choice to train Tengus over Legions in this situation, then you reap the consequences when the meta shifts.


But EVE is not real life, and as such, is just a game.

It's no different than training a Paladin in World of Warcraft, find out you hate being a tank, pay out the gold to have your talents reset and respec your character to Holy.

If you don't wish to pay to change your skills around, then don't.

But for those who would wish to try a new avenue of the game without the hours and hard earned cash they have already paid out go to waist to train a new character or to blow isk to buy someone elses character, then paying to have your trained skill points reset becomes valid.

It has little to no real consequence to either CCP or the community on a whole. It's another source of revenue for them.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2015-04-14 22:33:07 UTC
Can you exp;lain why you feel that choices made in a game that is all about the consequences of your actions should carry no consequences?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#8 - 2015-04-15 00:50:35 UTC
Reported for redundancy.

Oh and no.

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ISD Decoy
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ISD Alliance
#9 - 2015-04-15 01:05:37 UTC
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