EVE General Discussion

Butterfly effect will affect you.

You are incredibly bitter that someone else is having more fun than you.

I think people who read things into my words should start reading their own first.

Thank you. How can you tell? Why the population around? As a whole?

Not sure if i understand your questions. So i just give some more words for each category:
If suddenly 0.0 sec became 'the place to be':
- Ships and modules prices could raise at least for some time: people buy stuff to blow in 0.0 battles until some big entity takes large part of 0.0 and creates its industry there. Then things can change. But initially demand for ships and modules will increase
- Mineral prices - people discussing it actively in Market subforum
- Population around (high-sec) can decrease because 'everyone and his dog is fighting in 0.0'.

On the other hand if 0.0 became even worse than now:
- Ships and modules prices will continue decrease (there is very little demand)
- Minerals - i'm not sure here but i think they will continue their way to zero
- population around (high-sec) can grow - everyone returns to high-sec, then it decreases - everyone unsub out of boredom.

Mr. Utama, please realize that not only is this a video game, it's also a childish question to ask. While there certainly must be people who feel that way, this is no place to ask such a question and the act of asking itself puts you into an equally bad light, as you come across as someone who can not seperate reality from a video game.

Thank you.

While this change may not have any significant effect on your gameplay, there are other reasons to care. Not about the specifics of the mechanics, but in the process CCP is going through with the sov changes and how they appear to be doing things different to the way they have approached change in the past.

You don't have to care one bit about the specifics of the discussions, they'll go on anyway; but maybe the next time CCP come around to making changes to the game that do affect you, understanding how they approach and manage change might help you to get your comments and ideas across when a situation arises that you do have something to be interested in.

So you can be indifferent to the specifics, but still interested in the process.

I'm sure you don't care, but enlighten us as to why your opinion matters.

Great posts, Ms. Baas and Mr. Artelius. Thank you. I must have missed that all space can be player owned. I did not yet manage to dig through every single bit of information. It certainly sounds interesting and I will dig further.

Ms. Dots; you seem to have read something that hasn't been written.

I can assure you I'm not trolling. I am indifferent about the changes to the sovereignity mechanics not because of ignorance, but because of me lacking the information to understand the bigger picture. I am sure that there are many people hoping for "their game" to improve (which is great!). I am keen on learning more about "what's in the box". What does it affect. How does it affect me. Why does it affect me. Why do people from one side of space care about the other; or why not.

Why would I care?


I appreciate all of your posts! (but question the sanity of some of the authors)

Odds are no one is gonna quit over fozzie sov even if they cite that as the reason (ie they were getting close to the end of their EVE livers anyways and fozzie sov was just the last nail in the coffin). People didn't quit because any of CCPs other disastrous sov changes and this won't be any different.

Fozzie sov is a mistake, because it displays a massive misunderstanding of what null is and thus what kinds of players null attracts. It's going to royally suck for a null sec 'farmer/miner' who only has a few hours to play but his play time falls within "prime time" and so space is littered with "entosis roaming gangs" (just when you thought the old Dominion ceptor blobs were bad....ENTOSIS), and that's going to lead to some decline in people 'living' in null. Same goes for the people who 'live' in null but don't farm in prime time, they have no idea if their system or structures will be reinforced or not next time they log on.

As for pvp, fozzie sov encourages lots of small gang stuff, while some in null like any form of pvp, others are their for the 'big ships and big fights' otherwise they'd just live on one of the much better small game areas (low sec, FW low sec or npc null). Big ship/big fight types will see a much reduced frequency in their kinds of fleets.

We'll have to see what happens, but I'd still bet that the end result will be lots of complaining (till CCP makes some more changes to the new system) rather than lots of quitting.

Okay. That does it. I am too old to fall for this. Questions aren't answered by counter questions and I am sure you know that. I regret having this thread moved here and will request it to be locked. People who hallucinate things into my words, unreasonable hostile reactions and paranoia. It seems the forums are a deep part of the game, which is fine, but if people are so batshit insane it's definitely not the place to be.

To answer your question: Because I like the concept. Apparently that's a bad thing and asking questions here as well.

I thank all those who took time to give actual answers and wish all those people who hallucinate things into my words to get some distance, because this is a game and not your life.

Thank you and good bye.