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Prize Money for Pirates.
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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#61 - 2015-04-13 15:51:36 UTC
Dosi Kusoni wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
I'm still awaiting my isk for the pirate bowhead I killed. To be frank this kill should be paid out like several individual kills as it was hauling several pirate ships to conduct even more pirate deeds. One could even argue that this blow to pirate logistics will severely inhibit pirate activities across new eden.

Perhaps you want to send me one of your valid contract form before we can agree to some sort of negotiation or counter-offer.
I wouldn't want to be too harsh on you and be taking unfair advantage of the transaction offer you are proposing.

Btw, what if I was to charge interest on the kills offer you mention prior to my approval?
I don't think it would affect the capital of the transaction, except for the fact that the ship involved is a capital ship.
I'm sure you'll agree that it takes capital to charge interest on.
It's like tax evasion.


i helped kill 3 pirate archons and 20 other pirate battleships lastnight, how much for that?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Dosi Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#62 - 2015-04-13 15:57:02 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Dosi Kusoni wrote:
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The point is, I don't have enough funds left now, and I could have gotten 3b to 6b worth of ISK to invest into piracy punishment systems.
...


i helped kill 3 pirate archons and 20 other pirate battleships lastnight, how much for that?


Dosi Kusoni wrote:
Everything is still valid,

+ ... I won't have time to continue for a few months.
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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#63 - 2015-04-13 16:07:24 UTC
Dear Lar,

here come I, your biggest and loyal fan, to extend my congratulations for creating yet another vortex of confusion of these forums.
You will probably call it psychological warfare and/or scam but believe me, all I ever wanted is you to find answers to all questions you have ever asked.
Keep posting awesome posts and let our little brains squirm in joy of painful ecstasy when we try to comprehend mysterious ways of your writings.

Yours truly,
Schmata

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#64 - 2015-04-13 16:10:20 UTC
Dosi Kusoni wrote:

Perhaps you want to send me one of your valid contract form before we can agree to some sort of negotiation or counter-offer.
I wouldn't want to be too harsh on you and be taking unfair advantage of the transaction offer you are proposing.

Btw, what if I was to charge interest on the kills offer you mention prior to my approval?
I don't think it would affect the capital of the transaction, except for the fact that the ship involved is a capital ship.
I'm sure you'll agree that it takes capital to charge interest on.
It's like tax evasion.

I believe outlining the terms of the contract here would encourage others to participate in our cleaning up of New Eden's pirate elements. I feel that the modest fee of 50% of the total value of the loss mail paid out to he who got the final blow add another 50% of the hull value of the Bowhead since it was a vital part of the logistical network of New Eden's pirate network. This would be both a fair sum and would ensure a steady increase in our anti pirate activities. The final blow was landed by one 'Trosken Neirfallas' a trusted ally and long time friend of mine. Together we have eliminated many pirate threats over the years and although I don't expect back pay for services already rendered before the date of this post it would be most welcome.

Let me know your thoughts on this proposal

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

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Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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Dosi Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#65 - 2015-04-13 16:12:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Dosi Kusoni
Please revise your scope.

I came here to mention about that I didn't to offer some deal with risk to lose.
I prefer to and want to make solid and long lasting offers that generate real practical and tangible benefit .

I do not want any of the clause or capital to be at any risk of lost.

Sure , it may diminish risk of increased income.
However, it will diminish the risk of loss.


I am sure that I will be able to come to terms on how to formulate this intention and put it in valid business contracts.

I hope that it will be a great improvement compare to normal business ventures and that it will be more secure.


By the way, it's lunch time, and I'm 2 minutes late.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#66 - 2015-04-13 16:17:54 UTC
Dosi Kusoni wrote:
Please revise your scope.

I shall do this promptly and leave it here within 48 hours. I understand you will be gone for some time and as such I request an advance on the funds that will inevitably be payed out in full.

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Dosi Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#67 - 2015-04-13 17:27:11 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Dosi Kusoni wrote:
Please revise your scope.

I shall do this promptly and leave it here within 48 hours. I understand you will be gone for some time and as such I request an advance on the funds that will inevitably be payed out in full.

Yes, well, that's just it, I might not be active ingame for a few weeks, or months.
It doesn't mean that it doesn't give me the time to work on it offline.

I also communicate with programmers for 3rd party programs.
I'm not obsessed with contracting for ISK although that it is an important part of the offer, if not the most important.
The risk lies in the pirate element trying to steal the loot and get away with it.
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#68 - 2015-04-13 22:37:32 UTC
Dosi Kusoni wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
I'm still awaiting my isk for the pirate bowhead I killed. To be frank this kill should be paid out like several individual kills as it was hauling several pirate ships to conduct even more pirate deeds. One could even argue that this blow to pirate logistics will severely inhibit pirate activities across new eden.

Perhaps you want to send me one of your valid contract form before we can agree to some sort of negotiation or counter-offer.
I wouldn't want to be too harsh on you and be taking unfair advantage of the transaction offer you are proposing.

Btw, what if I was to charge interest on the kills offer you mention prior to my approval?
I don't think it would affect the capital of the transaction, except for the fact that the ship involved is a capital ship.
I'm sure you'll agree that it takes capital to charge interest on.
It's like tax evasion.

The point is, I don't have enough funds left now, and I could have gotten 3b to 6b worth of ISK to invest into piracy punishment systems.
It's good to prevent damage.
It's also good to punish them for damage to deter them from continuing piracy against good and honest clients.
+ The more we invest in it, the easier it will be to prevent their expansion to be uncontrolled.


I'm not very good at PVP (because I play in high sec) and I really want to participate in this.

So, I decided to combine a "Bush Doctrine" approach to this program with Veers' "No Newbro Left Behind" program.

As such, I would like to collect on 4 Ibi (Ibises?), a reaper, a condor, and a pod that I held accountable for the pirate actions I expect them to commit. All players were guilty of suspicious actions that I believe were tantamount to piracy.

They have paid for their crimes, now I ask that you pay me for the justice I delivered.
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#69 - 2015-04-14 04:39:01 UTC
Dosi Kusoni wrote:
I want to offer money to capture and destroy pirates and contract for it.

I read that the Marmite Collective are good to do that and contracted quite a lot already.
(I may try to contact them shortly about it.)


I am a Bounty Hunter and I want to team up to help capture pirates.



Also, I want to evaluate the value of capturing pirates, relative to which pirate they are.

I published about offering money for this and something similar before and I will keep working on this.



I am not advertising to get money like the Marmite Collective does at this point although that is a valid option.



I am more than sick and tired of pirates offers to get income while they only offer empty promises.
I won't even include how much damage they try to syphon out of me and the billions of loses the caused.


Thank you and I hope that I am in the right forum.
(I guess could post it in the Price Checks forums before, to find if the Price on their head is worth it.)


Sweetheart, we are all bounty hunters in some form, but the actual profession of bounty hunter in Eve has been dead for a long time since they changed the way bounties work. You are aware of how they work right? You don't get the full bounty, only 20% of the value of the ship they are in when destroyed. You will be hrd pressed to make isk in this manner, especially in HS.

What do you consider a pirate? Is it someone who enjoys a gameplay style that differs from yours? Going after people who are "pirates" is itself a form of "piracy". Also, I'd be very careful who you ask for help in this endeavor..as most mercs are themselves "pirates". Just a little friendly advice. Big smile

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..