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Hi

Any ETA on said dev blog date?

For how much longer are the current Nex SKINs going to remain for sale?

Thanks!



Greatness. \o/

After reading previous comments a few things came to me...

1) With all these skins being permanent, the only market for people who would buy them are characters which haven't bought them yet. This means by default their target audience will continually shrink until it is neatly nobody at all... and that seems like a very poor sustainable market strategy to me.

2) The timed skins are essentially telling anyone that would use them that they ahve to pay XX millions of ISK (or hundreds of AUR) per month to keep their favorite pirate SKINed ship. In what universe are you expecting this to be a smashingly popular success?

3) CCP stated the reason for making the dropped SKINs time limited was to maintain their market need, since they feel all other ship SKINs have to be permanent... but what about the market demand for all the other ship SKINs? Due to the SKINs being permanent they will continue to suffer reduced demand as fewer and fewer people would need to buy them, right?

I think timed SKINs are a work-around for the fact that SKINs cannot be destroyed. NES skins will be indestructible and dropped SKINs will eventually expire. CCP has indicated that it's unlikely (and inadvisable) that they'll make timed SKINs available for Aurum on Tranquility, so this will probably be a Serenity-only aspect.


Once you activate the temporary SKINs, the timer kicks in.


I don't believe there are any limited on the number of applications.


SKINs stay with the capsuleer; not the ship.

Exactly. Which would not only be (and probably has to some extent) a logistical nightmare for the developers, but limit this to a finite number of SKINs. The proposed system offers essentially unlimited potential, including even more customization. The real issue here is that people want to destroy SKINs.

That seems like a lot of work to track this for little gain.

Just logged onto SiSi to check it out, and I like what I see, so far.

But, a couple questions.... what would be the problem with crossing over from one race to another?
Maybe we can pay a little extra to apply a given SKIN to any hull in a given size range (ie: Serpentis or Gurista skin on any battlecruiser, etc). If a player REALLY wants a Wiyrkomi Thorax or a Tash-Murkon Rokh, why not let him or her have it if they're willing to pay?

And non-faction/NPC corp SKINs, for that matter. Are we getting alternate color scemes like the "Crimson" and "Shiny" ones we saw in the original devblog? Perhaps a few others, even?

Lastly.... player corp/alliance logos. Will this happen? And if so, how soon until we hear a green-light on it?

I'm a little excited to see how this one plays out. If CCP does this right, this is how you introduce microtransactions without making people angry. I, for one, welcome this change, and can certainly see myself shelling out some extra money for a few aesthetic options. Hopefully, our options will be both affordable and plentiful.

And, again, thanks for the Guristas Ferox. :)


(now where are the rest of the Marshal jackets....)

I agree..
I had mentioned in another thread that all NPC pirate, Navy, and R&D corps should reward their trademark skins as High standing LP rewards, I don't understand why they're getting hung up on T2,3 skins ..If you see a tengu - it's a tengu & whatever skin it has just makes the game world more diverse (not all ferraris are red) ..would people really get confused in combat just because of color?? all non-T1 ships have different names identified in D-scan and overview so no hassles there.

Also skins should just be a nice permanent fluff to personalization and not an uber flakey timed carebear market stunt. All my skills are permanent why is no one complaining that my skill books drop as loot everytime I die? Look at all the expensive skillbooks out there - skins should be a one time skill sorta thing and NOT pend insurance's evil twin (referring to its time limit).

Some really good suggestions. I will add my own.


Why the blueprint style interface? I like this while idea of the 'skin' data being lost. With that said, why not simply add a new fitting slot, similar to rigs on ships. Ship nano coating data is stored on a holochip. This chip is plugged into the nano coating fitting slot, which gets you your desired coating displayed. These chips do not drop, however, with the use of a salvaged, may be salvaged. Perhaps, faction chips are salvaged, they are corrupted, or incomplete and a few are needed to complete the whole nano coating sequence. Then you can have it so while these chips are fitted they deteriorate over time, maybe burn out?

To me this seems like a smother way to implement it, and adds an opportunity for content creation.

I do believe that certain skins will indeed eventually be available (only) through loyalty point transactions, unless they have changed their mind on this point.

One problem is that they are in the process of creating new and unique hulls for all of the T2 vessels. So you have the issue of T2 variants that currently exist only being different via their current unique color schemes (although this is relatively minor). More importantly you have the issue of needed to do a set of skins that will in the near future no longer be applicable, as the hulls will change and they will have to be redone.

So not insurmountable obstacles, but significant. Fortunately they are well aware of this and have still said that T2 and T3 skins will happen over time.

There's always a reason to fly T1's. Some people might not like the reasons, but they're still reasons.

Besides.... Quafe Domi.