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Dosi Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-03-28 01:55:22 UTC
Proposal:
Create new credibility rating of EVE pilots based on factors not affected by voters but rather by physical proof.

Keep a up-to-date list of past participant, including those crediting others, and those credited.


(I'm sure more opportunities will develop once the intimidating obstacles that motivates attackers are overcome.)

The should be many other factors to implement into this project as well.
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-03-28 02:05:59 UTC
Other than completing a courier contract, how do you get physical proof?
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2015-03-28 04:32:12 UTC
I endorse this product and or service.

Because on any objective measures, I'd look very trustworthy.

- Excluding one failed courier contact where the useful idiot went through Tama and failed the contact there, leaving a lossmail, I have something like 499/500 success rate on courier contacts
- I've borrowed frequently and never defaulted even when not collateralized

Who knows, maybe your system will recommend me for a logisticician role in an alliance sometime.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
flakeys
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-03-28 08:56:48 UTC
I'm sure such a system could not be tricked into falls trust based on a cred rep number generated by the use of your alts and friends ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#5 - 2015-03-29 11:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ria Nieyli
On the other hand, I'd have a negative credit rating for 2015 since I received a small inheritance from a friend that quit the game.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-04-09 00:05:04 UTC
Lol such a system would be hilariously easy to abuse. Please make it happen.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Dosi Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-04-09 02:14:18 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
Lol such a system would be hilariously easy to abuse. Please make it happen.

Sure, then how can you integrate the abuse into it so that it can be prevented and deterred?
Koniforous
Tauren Transit
#8 - 2015-04-09 17:40:45 UTC
Dosi Kusoni wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Lol such a system would be hilariously easy to abuse. Please make it happen.

Sure, then how can you integrate the abuse into it so that it can be prevented and deterred?

This already exists. Its called forum history checking. Anyone that's looking for an easy "hey invest in this person HIGH SCORE!" program is being lazy and will benefit from it just as much as they do when they skip the history check.

TAUTX: Private Bank & Lending

TAUTX: Collateral Liquidation / Discount Items
virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-04-09 18:04:17 UTC  |  Edited by: virm pasuul
hey invest in this person HIGH SCORE!" program is being lazy and will benefit from it just as much as they do when they skip the history check

People love a number that saves them having to think or do research. A prime example of this is the formula that bankers used to turn all the complicated risks involved with CDOs into a single number between 1 and 10. Who needs to pay attention to the details of the risk now you have an easy number?
Of course it's not always that simple.......

For those who don't know this led to the last world wide financial meltdown.
Story about it on wired here.
http://archive.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-03/wp_quant?currentPage=all

Picture story with a lot less about the risk formula, but lots more funny pictures on the subject :)
Warning, lots of swearing.
http://www.businesspundit.com/sub-prime/
Dosi Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-04-09 18:25:54 UTC
Koniforous wrote:
Dosi Kusoni wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Lol such a system would be hilariously easy to abuse. Please make it happen.

Sure, then how can you integrate the abuse into it so that it can be prevented and deterred?

This already exists. Its called forum history checking. Anyone that's looking for an easy "hey invest in this person HIGH SCORE!" program is being lazy and will benefit from it just as much as they do when they skip the history check.

I'm all for keeping an accurate sensitive and viable history without made up stories and lies and deceit.
That way, it not only keeps the credit more worthy but it can actually help generate real good rather than evil from fake good.
Dosi Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-04-09 18:27:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Dosi Kusoni
virm pasuul wrote:
hey invest in this person HIGH SCORE!" program is being lazy and will benefit from it just as much as they do when they skip the history check

People love a number that saves them having to think or do research. A prime example of this is the formula that bankers used to turn all the complicated risks involved with CDOs into a single number between 1 and 10. Who needs to pay attention to the details of the risk now you have an easy number?
Of course it's not always that simple.......

For those who don't know this led to the last world wide financial meltdown.
Story about it on wired here.
http://archive.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-03/wp_quant?currentPage=all

Picture story with a lot less about the risk formula, but lots more funny pictures on the subject :)
Warning, lots of swearing.
http://www.businesspundit.com/sub-prime/

WIRED MAGAZINE: 17.03
Recipe for Disaster: The Formula That Killed Wall Street

https://books.google.ca/books?id=fXgyeLTsinQC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=http://archive.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-03/wp_quant?currentPage%3Dall&source=bl&ots=NwYd3xaJfK&sig=qwx3R94nopOZQwsj4YYCgydKKVI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=a8QmVYHjMsiXsAXPrYOABw&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=http%3A%2F%2Farchive.wired.com%2Ftechbiz%2Fit%2Fmagazine%2F17-03%2Fwp_quant%3FcurrentPage%3Dall&f=false
NIST
National Institute of Standards and Technology
U.S. Department of Commerce NISTIR 7564

Directions in
Security Metrics Research
Wayne Jansen


NISTIR 7564 Directions in
Security Metrics Research

Wayne Jansen

Computer Security

Computer Security Division
Information Technology Laboratory
National Institute of Standards and Technology
Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8930

April 2009


U.S. Department of Commerce
Gary Locke, Secretary

National Institute of Standards and Technology
Patrick D. Gallagher, Deputy Director


Report on Computer Systems Technology

...
National Institute of Standards and Technology Interagency Report
26 pages (2009)

This maybe better in OOPE
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-04-12 09:32:34 UTC
Proposal. Develop a corporation that charges a nominal fee for tracking and updating your credibility score. Salary for people in corp who are book keepers is granted from said fees.


Its a sandbox. Are you going to ask things be hard coded in or get creative?

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
Dosi Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-04-12 19:04:11 UTC
My account will be inactive within 24 hours but there are game related actions happening in the MD forums which are not coded in the game.

They are still valid.

(The MD forum is not the same as the EVE Marketplace forum either for that matter, even if without digressing.)
Dosi Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-04-13 11:40:54 UTC
Dosi Kusoni wrote:
My account will be inactive within 24 hours ... They are still valid.

And so is this post, ...
13 April 2015 - 4:49 am UTC (in 0 days)

http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx
(or is it worldtimesaver?
unless you prefer to spell it savor?)
...
(UTC/GMT)
The current time and date right now
11:37 AM

Monday, April 13, 2015
Standard Time +0000 UTC

UTC/GMT is 11:37 on Monday, April 13, 2015

- > Should have been expired for 6 hours and 48 minutes)
(6 hours and 66 minutes in 18 minutes from that time, it is now 11:40:32)