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deann00 Otomeya - Corp thief, awoxer, antisocial behavior

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Super Paladin
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-04-12 08:17:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Super Paladin
Reporting deann00 Otomeya for corp theft, blue shooting and antisocial behavior.

I flew with him in two corps. He stole from his friends in both corps, shot blues in the second corp, and struggled to behave and communicate like a normal person.


Theft:
- Refused to repay 2b in loans when departing the first corp
- Stole an assortment of ships and modules when departing the second corp
The loans and items stolen were from his good friends in the corps. These weren't planned thefts. He got bored of the corps (his words) and decided to steal from the people that had trusted him, good friends he'd known for awhile.

Blue shooting:
- Killed blues while in the second corp
- Blues killed were from local corps we were aligned with, as well as alts of corp members
The kills happened across several months. He had a different excuse each time... like bad overview, locked the wrong target, and other such nonsense. The management bought into it at the time, despite suspecting he might be lying. Now we know he was. After his departure, he bragged about how he'd shoot blues anytime he was bored and thought he could get away with it.

Antisocial behavior:
- Lots of drama between himself and certain corp members / friendly local corps
- Struggled to communicate maturely, and at times even coherently
- Several wardecs and diplomatic issues as a result of his poor attitude in local and chats
- Killed alts of his friends while on comms with them because he was bored
- Threatened various people when they wouldn't help him cause more havoc upon his departure
The lack of loyalty is tied to antisocial tendencies more than a desire for ISK. Anyone is capable of a theft when enough ISK is involved, but it takes a "special" kind of personality to steal pennies from good friends, kill their alts, and threaten them... all out of boredom.


To be clear: None of these were planned things. This is just how he behaves when he's bored. If you think you can trust him because he's flown with you for awhile, or because he has some good friends in the corp, you are mistaken. He was legitimately good friends with people in both corps, and those are the people he victimized the most, because they trusted him.

My advice is to stay clear of this player.

(edit: it looks like someone reported him 3-4 months ago for corp theft. http://evewho.com/pilot/deann00+Otomeya check the comments)
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#2 - 2015-04-12 09:13:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragen Neirfallas
Sir as a member of the Court of Crime and Punishment I can assure you that you may post kill mails as long as you meet the following criteria
CCP Falcon wrote:
Killmails

The posting of killmails is permitted, however following criteria must be met:

a) The name of the victim must be removed or covered up
b) The killmail must be posted along with constructive text/content. This means no posting new threads with simply a killmail in it without a comment.
c) The killmail must be posted directly into the post and may not be a link to a third-party site.


I am sure a creative fellow such as yourself can work out how to provide such evidence before this court while still keeping within these rules. Ensure you can prove which of these corps are blue to you, my suggestion is leaking an API to eve skunk so we can see your corps standings.

We would also like to see evidence and a ledger/document detailing out all conditions on this loan, the repayment timetable, a signed copy of recorded verbal agreement etc. We are appalled by the theft of ships of trusted corp members and will deal rather harshly with this individual for such a crime. Should you be able to provide proof of course. Now while you are not allowed to post the chat logs here of any anti social behavior we will require you to mail it to both the jury, myself and any counsel that are engaged to defend/prosecute this case.

Such outrageous behavior is inexcusable in our fine community and will be dealt with by the harshest means we have at our collective disposal. We look on these crimes listed as the worst we can think of other then unsupported slander of a fellow capsuleer, crying on forums and/or threatening to quit the game to elicit sympathy. We will review your case thoroughly and impartially. A jury of your peers will decide the guilty party/parties and the Court of Crime and Punishment will render a fair judgement that will stand unless new evidence comes to light that outweighs the old evidence in this courts opinion.

We will adjourn for 24 hours and allow you to gather you evidence required and get it to the appropriate members as listed. Any former evidence from other trials either side has been in can also be admitted so long as it was substantiated by the members of this court. With such a lofty list of crimes I call upon volunteers for jury duty for this case.

Judge - Noragen Neirfallas
Juror 1 - admiral root
Juror 2 - Spotter of Grim
Juror 3 - Fybs
Juror 4 - Crawlblood
Juror 5 - Danalee

Prosecutor - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
OP - Super Paladin AKA Kalihira AKA Jambo Flambo
Defense Counsel - Unsuccessful At Everything, Mobadder Thworst
Defendant - deann00 Otomeya
Executioner/Bailiff - Tora Bushido
Court Investigator - Tengu Grib

Case 00005 is now in session

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#3 - 2015-04-12 09:37:30 UTC
Tora Bushido has volunteered to be the executioner should the Court find it neccessary. This just became a capital case people. Break out your Sunday bests the eyes of all of eve shall be upon us.

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Spotter of Grim
Los Pollos Huolas
#4 - 2015-04-12 09:43:27 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:

Case 00005 is now in session


I for one is following this court and as neutral can i be the judge?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#5 - 2015-04-12 09:57:23 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Tora Bushido has volunteered to be the executioner should the Court find it neccessary. This just became a capital case people. Break out your Sunday bests the eyes of all of eve shall be upon us.
How I imagine Tora feels right now.

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#6 - 2015-04-12 10:16:28 UTC
I'm always available to do my civic duty on a jury.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#7 - 2015-04-12 10:17:55 UTC
Super Paladin wrote:

Antisocial behavior:
- Struggled to communicate maturely, and at times even coherently


You do realise that you just described the vast majority of internet users, right?

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#8 - 2015-04-12 10:20:45 UTC
Spotter of Grim wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:

Case 00005 is now in session


I for one is following this court and as neutral can i be the judge?

I'm afraid the position of Judge has been filled by yours truly but the position of Juror is available if you wish. We need fair impartial jurors with no conflicts of interest with either party stated in this case. Can you be that person for us, for them and for all of New Eden?

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Spotter of Grim
Los Pollos Huolas
#9 - 2015-04-12 10:45:41 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Can you be that person for us, for them and for all of New Eden?


Ofc i can, wouldnt sign up if i wasnt up for the task
Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-04-12 11:22:57 UTC
I will step forward as a Juror Pirate

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-04-12 11:39:30 UTC
I would like to act as counsel for the accused.

Please, everyone remember he is innocent until proven guilty.

The defendant's accusations come at the (suspiciously) unsubstantiated behest of international corporations whose purpose is to generate wealth for themselves.

If his interests or moral position were to cross their greedy path, I can clearly see how he could become an obstacle for them to destroy.

No, ladies and gentlemen, the accused is not a pariah to be ignored or shunned as he is portrayed. He is a martyr we haven't let die... Yet.

We must uphold the rights of the individual in this case. A failure here could pave the way for a mistopian future. This is a precedent we simply cannot afford.

I would like to file a counter suit against the plaintiff in this case for damages of 2b isk for defamation of character, slander, libel, and suspicion of sodomy.

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#12 - 2015-04-12 11:48:46 UTC
Your offer is noted and we await the defendant's response

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-04-12 11:50:39 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Your offer is noted and we await the defendant's response


Thank you, your Honor.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-04-12 14:10:58 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
I of course am available to act as defense counsel. Or Prosecutor. Either way someone will be convicted!

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Mortlake
Republic Military School
#15 - 2015-04-12 14:14:53 UTC
One of my goats appears to be missing.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#16 - 2015-04-12 18:10:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Unsuccessful At Everything
Super Paladin wrote:
Reporting deann00 Otomeya for corp theft, blue shooting and antisocial behavior.

I flew with him in two corps. He stole from his friends in both corps, shot blues in the second corp, and struggled to behave and communicate like a normal person.


Theft:
- Refused to repay 2b in loans when departing the first corp
- Stole an assortment of ships and modules when departing the second corp
The loans and items stolen were from his good friends in the corps. These weren't planned thefts. He got bored of the corps (his words) and decided to steal from the people that had trusted him, good friends he'd known for awhile.

Blue shooting:
- Killed blues while in the second corp
- Blues killed were from local corps we were aligned with, as well as alts of corp members
The kills happened across several months. He had a different excuse each time... like bad overview, locked the wrong target, and other such nonsense. The management bought into it at the time, despite suspecting he might be lying. Now we know he was. After his departure, he bragged about how he'd shoot blues anytime he was bored and thought he could get away with it.

Antisocial behavior:
- Lots of drama between himself and certain corp members / friendly local corps
- Struggled to communicate maturely, and at times even coherently
- Several wardecs and diplomatic issues as a result of his poor attitude in local and chats
- Killed alts of his friends while on comms with them because he was bored
- Threatened various people when they wouldn't help him cause more havoc upon his departure
The lack of loyalty is tied to antisocial tendencies more than a desire for ISK. Anyone is capable of a theft when enough ISK is involved, but it takes a "special" kind of personality to steal pennies from good friends, kill their alts, and threaten them... all out of boredom.


To be clear: None of these were planned things. This is just how he behaves when he's bored. If you think you can trust him because he's flown with you for awhile, or because he has some good friends in the corp, you are mistaken. He was legitimately good friends with people in both corps, and those are the people he victimized the most, because they trusted him.

My advice is to stay clear of this player.


These are serious allegations brought against my client, who has engaged my services as Defense Council.

I humbly request of the court a brief moment while I compile the facts so that I may accurately defend the accused.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#17 - 2015-04-12 19:11:43 UTC
Ladies and Gentlemen of the C&P Board of Inquiry, I move to have the accusations of the OP removed from all records due to their slanderous nature. The OP's case is circumstantial at best, and full of inaccuracies as I intend to show.

First off, OP claims to have been in 2 different corps with my client, but simply looking at the OP's employment history shows that OP HAS NEVER BEEN IN A CORP!!!!! Better yet, deann00's NPC corp is Deep Core Mining Inc. [DCMI], and starting corp was School of Applied Knowledge [SAK] , so even if the OP did claim they flew together in an NPC corp.. OP is in Science and Trade Institute!

How can the accuser start off his case with such falsehoods?!!?!??!

Lets move onto: - Refused to repay 2b in loans when departing the first corp, shall we?

Since we have proven the OP and my client have never been in the same corp, I guess we shall need to use deann00's corp history for this. Deann00's first corp was The Studs, which is now closed. I put forth that this 'loan' wasn't a loan at all, but a payment for services rendered while under the corp's employ. When the corp was closed, the assets were liquidated, and my client was simply given his fair share.

Next we move onto: - Stole an assortment of ships and modules when departing the second corp

Deann00's second corp was Standing United [STUDS]. Searches for reports on corp thefts from them reveal that there has never been a corp theft! Surely as we have seen, whenever there is a theft of any magnitude it is reported.

Listed in evewho is the following statement: Corp thief. Stole 3B from a POS from our corp. Contacted his old CEO during the investigation, whom informed us he stole 3-4B of BPOs from them. This was posted 3 months ago. Three months ago, deann00 was in the employ of a corp Ultramar Independent Contracting, to which he belonged from 2014/10/10 - 2015/03/29. You are telling me that he stole from Ultramar, and continued to be employed for another 2 and a half months?!??!? Corp thieves are always kicked out immeadiately by any upstanding corp, which leads me to believe that this statement was made by someone who was outside of the corp at the time, looking to cause drama within the corp, possibly even covering up the CEO's embezzlement from Ultramar! The fact that this statement also claims that my clients old CEO was contacted and he reported the theft of 3-4B in BPOs is scandalous! My clients corp before Ultramar was Righteous Immortal Pew [RIP-U] a PvP corp that operates in all TZ and is willing to go full pirate. DOES THIS SOUND LIKE AN INDY CORP WITH 4 BIL IN BPOS??!?!?!? NO! Therefore the entire statement on Evewho is also entirely false! Id even venture a guess that its author L Arm is in fact the OP himself!

Now lets move onto the more serious allegations:
- Killed blues while in the second corp
- Blues killed were from local corps we were aligned with, as well as alts of corp members
- Killed alts of his friends while on comms with them because he was bored

OP has offered us no proof of these allegations, and even if he did, how could we determine that these people were actually blue? How are we to know the corps rules of engagement? How can we even determine if those people were indeed alts of corp members or friends? WE have only the OP's word on this, as no killboard would reflect such things. For all we know, this happened while in a NPSI corp, meaning that all kills would have been completely legitimate! Surely there are coms recording of this, yet no soundcloud of the incidents have been offered.

Lets move on further to:
- Lots of drama between himself and certain corp members / friendly local corps
- Struggled to communicate maturely, and at times even coherently
- Several wardecs and diplomatic issues as a result of his poor attitude in local and chats
- Threatened various people when they wouldn't help him cause more havoc upon his departure

There are no laws governing the above, therefore no laws could be broken. Unwritten social conventions are not laws, and can therefore be broken at anytime freely and without consequence, much like how hitting on your sister-in-law during a family reunion might not be the most appropriate thing in the world, but it is far from illegal!

lets now go over the Op's closing statement:
None of these were planned things. This is just how he behaves when he's bored. If you think you can trust him because he's flown with you for awhile, or because he has some good friends in the corp, you are mistaken. He was legitimately good friends with people in both corps, and those are the people he victimized the most, because they trusted him.

Surely OP, you have attempted to prove that all of these actions were premeditated, now you claim that none of these incidents were planned!??! You claim my client was bored. Are you my client? How do you know if was bored or not? How do you know that he was legitimately good friends with someone? You are not my client, and you have simply assumed these things. Only my client can determine his friendships and level of entertainment!

Your Honor and esteemed panel of the C&P Board of Inquiry, I move that we indict the OP for Malicious Slander of my clients good name. He has besmirched my clients evewho board and his forum identity with these false allegations, and he himself deserves a mark for what he has done. I would also like to open up investigation into the OP possibly being an alt of the phantom Nitshe!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-04-12 22:03:41 UTC
Such serious business, I am afraid I must join in suit against the op. My client Deep Space mining has been tarnished by the unfounded accusations here. To accuse a fellow pilot of blue shooting when he was never in our corp nor does deep space mining ally themselves with any corp. we are perfectly capable to handle these issues ourselves with no outside help. If these accusations where true then the op should have contacted internal security as he agreed to when he joined us. It is clearly listed in our employee handbook section 36 page 589 sub sections d.

With such damning evidence I as that the op be be charge with breach of contract, industrial espionage, spying and lying under oath.

As such I ask the court the remand all assets to us minus cort fees and penalties and that the op immediately be killed and all his clones destroyed.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#19 - 2015-04-12 22:11:17 UTC
He sounds like a really great dude. Shame he joined marmite!
Super Paladin
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-04-12 22:56:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Super Paladin
Nine private messages... slow day in C&P? P

I've got some screen captures but they would link my main character to this. Judging by the messages I've received, I'm not going to do that. I don't need an army of bored trolls bothering me. If I wanted that I'd have posted with my main. Thanks, but no thanks.

Just noticed this though... it looks like someone reported him for corp theft 3-4 months ago: http://evewho.com/pilot/deann00+Otomeya check the comments

This is my last post in this thread. I've provided this information to warn people about dean and that's it. I really don't care what you trolls think.
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