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"We're Ashamed, and We Should Be" by Travis Morrow

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jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#21 - 2015-04-05 12:49:49 UTC
pile of bollox
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#22 - 2015-04-06 00:13:44 UTC
Vector Symian wrote:
IF their is a gaming community I am it evil overlord so I will give an official response

-Down with this sort of thing- controlling people with guilt is a far worse form of trolling bordering on griefing as you will not stop doing it

you do not own us, their is no moral high ground to be fought over...stop wacking people with the Moral Stick

people are Asshats and they have been doing this for a thousand years and they will do it for a thousand more no matter the medium in which they use

Overlord out
*drops mike*
o7


You should be more careful not to drop Mike, he has feeling too!

*mic drop*
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#23 - 2015-04-06 10:57:48 UTC
Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:
Do you enjoy watching football?

Well, have I got news for you. Worldwide community of football fans: You are ashamed, and you should be. Rape, threats, and actual murder.

It's irrelevant these were committed by some disturbed person you've never heard about from some part of the world you've never been to. You both enjoy the same kind of entertainment, you belong to the same community. Ergo: you rapist murderous violent bastard, shame on you!

Sounds like carebear logic tbh... heard this way of thinking from way too many.
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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-04-09 20:19:35 UTC
I wish we could shoot anyone who brings up "gamergate".




















And if anything boobs have a considerable advantage in games like eve. Smile

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2015-04-10 01:04:48 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
I wish we could shoot anyone who brings up "gamergate".


Why? I much rather have a laugh at the expensive of professional victims and the wannabes.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#26 - 2015-04-10 13:51:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Vector Symian wrote:
Overlord out
*drops mike*
"Breaking news: The overlord of Internet is homosexual and has dropped his lover on the floor over this problem in the community!"
Twisted
As said above, it is "mic" for microphone.
(I don't really think you are gay and it doesn't matter if you are. I am just amused by the mental image of someone standing there with a man in his arms, while making a public speech, then at the end of it dropping him and walking away) Lol
Lan Wang wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
right wing wackos are convinced that "atheism" is a belief system and not a personal attitudeRoll
INB4 Lock and religious debate

and your pretty much wrong, a community is people with the same common values, so people playing videogames are part of a gaming community. its not hard to comprehend.
I am not part of the WoW gaming community. I shun them.

Lumping all people into one community would be like calling people with remote control airplanes, pilots because they also make things fly.
If you believe that then you need to start calling me, "Captain Jen" because I make a rubber duck move around across the surface of my bath water. P

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#27 - 2015-04-10 14:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Ragnar Severasse wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
right wing wackos are convinced that "atheism" is a belief system and not a personal attitudeRoll


INB4 Lock and religious debate

and your pretty much wrong, a community is people with the same common values, so people playing videogames are part of a gaming community. its not hard to comprehend.


Does there really need to be a "gaming community" though? After all, there aren't really any other communities based around an art form.

There's the demoscene ... which is a community of creative people
who code, design, draw and create realtime movies ...

Their main site is http://www.pouet.net

It exists for over four decades now ...
... and spawned companies like FutureMark and CryTek.


And yeah for hating carebears there definitely is no community.
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Malaclypse Muscaria
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2015-04-10 16:02:35 UTC
Areen Sassel
Dirac Angestun Gesept
#29 - 2015-04-10 16:56:21 UTC


Well, no. That's - very carefully cropped down to 30 seconds to avoid making that obvious - about the whoever-it-was hack on Sony in an attempt to suppress The Interview.

Criminal behaviour to stop people saying things you don't like is the stock in trade of the current crop of internet misogynists. It's rather different from observing that people are saying things you don't like, or being vexed that the people saying those things share your hobby and are making you look bad.
Malaclypse Muscaria
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2015-04-10 18:03:30 UTC
Areen Sassel wrote:


Well, no. That's - very carefully cropped down to 30 seconds to avoid making that obvious - about the whoever-it-was hack on Sony in an attempt to suppress The Interview.

Criminal behaviour to stop people saying things you don't like is the stock in trade of the current crop of internet misogynists. It's rather different from observing that people are saying things you don't like, or being vexed that the people saying those things share your hobby and are making you look bad.




Of course he said that on a different context, but the sentiment is exactly the same.

You are a retard if you believe this about stopping "misogynists making death threats". This is about censoring whatever entertainment these SJW idiots dislike.

Actually, this is the same bullsh*t that has been going on for decades: in the '50s it was parents being "offended" about Elvis lasciviously moving his hips in front of their daughters, in the '60s it was about the Beatles, the Stones et al "corrupting the youth".

In the '80s we had the PMRC and others claiming rock / metal music was "satanic" and "offensive", and in the '90s & '00s we had Jack Thomson and his ilk claiming videogames were turning young people into serial killers, blaming school shootings on them, and campaigning for censorship.

Now we have the "special snowflakes" playing the "I'm offended!" card, and trying to censor anything they dislike - instead of simply ignoring it and playing "My Little Pony" or whatever rocks their boat.

The only thing that has changed, is that the SJW crowd has disguised this as "we are fighting misogyny!", and adopted a culture of blatantly and dishonestly victimizing themselves. But is the same bullsh*it as before, just different decade.

It's simple as this: if you don't like certain videogames, or find them "offensive", DON'T PLAY THEM. Go play "Depression Quest" or whatever, there's enough of those out there. How difficult is that?

And btw, the threats have been done by individuals on BOTH camps. Pull your head out of your ass.
Areen Sassel
Dirac Angestun Gesept
#31 - 2015-04-10 18:40:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Areen Sassel
Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:
You are a retard if you believe this about stopping "misogynists making death threats". This is about censoring whatever entertainment these SJW idiots dislike.


... says it's not about misogyny but...

Quote:
And btw, the threats have been done by individuals on BOTH camps. Pull your head out of your ass.


... quotes site that can barely mention Quinn or Sarkeesian without using (a five-letter word for a prostitute the forums won't let me type). Oh, swift and terrible irony.

http://www.themittani.com/content/traffic-control-getting-mad-video-games and http://www.themittani.com/content/mittens-mailbox-fedoras-strike-back sum up exactly how seriously one should take the part of the movement that isn't actively criminal, better than I could (and much more entertainingly).
Malaclypse Muscaria
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2015-04-10 19:01:50 UTC
Areen Sassel wrote:
Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:
You are a retard if you believe this about stopping "misogynists making death threats". This is about censoring whatever entertainment these SJW idiots dislike.


... says it's not about misogyny but...

Quote:
And btw, the threats have been done by individuals on BOTH camps. Pull your head out of your ass.


... quotes site that can barely mention Quinn or Sarkeesian without using (a five-letter word for a prostitute the forums won't let me type). Oh, swift and terrible irony.

http://www.themittani.com/content/traffic-control-getting-mad-video-games and http://www.themittani.com/content/mittens-mailbox-fedoras-strike-back sum up exactly how seriously one should take the part of the movement that isn't actively criminal, better than I could (and much more entertainingly).



Let me rephrase what I said before: pull your head out of Mitten's, Sarkeesian's and Quinn's asses and use some rationality for a change, the toxic fumes your are inhaling are clearly affecting your thought process, causing paranoid delusions, and confusing "valid criticism of bullsh*t narratives calling for censorship in media / entertainment" for "misogyny".


Jenshae Chiroptera
#33 - 2015-04-11 00:23:48 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt9GwmOWoqo

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2015-04-11 18:13:32 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt9GwmOWoqo


Ugh. Extra Credits used to be great, now it is just irrelevant as aGG and ghazi but touching on the subject of harassment. I prefer Julia Hardy's solution - mockery. When she gets harassed by some idiot, she mocks them and shares with the world.

That way we all get a laugh out of these plebs.

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Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2015-04-15 19:45:20 UTC
I like the article for the most part, but I feel it is disingenuous at best to claim that when Hollywood caved to criticism, that they were doing anything but fully compromising unfairly to corrupt people and politicians. Hollywood never had anything to own up to, and we (gamers) don't now. Regardless of any number of existing "bad people" who happen to play games, it is completely dishonest to claim that the gaming community has any ties whatsoever to these people or their acts. Nay, it is demonstrated with statistical evidence not only that there is no clear connection between people playing violent video games and people committing violence, but that there is a very small correlation showing that those who play video games of any kind are, in fact, slightly less likely to commit acts of violence. The same is true for those who watch movies or television. Now it is unreasonable to make any assumptions about such weak data, but the worst assumptions you could make about it are the only ones that are directly against the very little information it even shows.

If we ditch the weak data and rely only on strong, hard evidence, we can see it is known that the television and gaming industries have had a phenomenal impact on our culture, and among other major changes have led to overall very strong declines in illiteracy, cultural chauvanism, ethnocentrism, and persecution. This is paired with very significant increases in general morale and much more friendliness among friendships. Children are bullied less, parents lash out at each other less, people with disabilities can come out in public more, the races are mixing, the languages are mixing, people talk about other countries not with disdain but with awe. And we owe virtually all of this to the media which has made these experiences accessible to us so that we would grow up in a world in which the world isn't alien to us.

So I refuse to accept any sort of "constructive criticism" on part of anyone who thinks that my gaming community needs to own up to any sort of violence or depravity. No, the ones who need to own up to depravity are the very oppressors fighting us. We're not in the wrong, we're not even a little wrong.

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#36 - 2015-04-15 22:04:25 UTC
*watching intensifies*

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Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#37 - 2015-04-16 13:51:18 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
*watching intensifies*

Barstorlode gone casual
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2015-04-18 10:55:37 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
*watching intensifies*

Barstorlode gone casual


Probably because the doctor told him to watch his blood pressure.

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ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#39 - 2015-04-22 19:27:00 UTC
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