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[Resolved] Werid Graphic issue when running eve
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Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-04-10 12:05:50 UTC
Torgeir Hekard wrote:
Better performance with an APU and video memory taken from the main memory pool?
Duh.


I'm sorry. What do you mean by that?
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#22 - 2015-04-10 13:08:04 UTC
Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain wrote:

I'm sorry. What do you mean by that?

Well, it's an integrated video chip that has to be squeezed in a certain heat package. That is, your CPU + GPU combo can't consume more than... eeehhh... 65? Or 95 watts? Consider that modern mid-range GPUs eat 250ish watts under load and think about the implications.

Also being a single APU chip it obviously lacks onboard memory, so it has to use the regular system memory for it's video memory. Which is slower in itself (GDDR5 is about 3 times faster than an average DDR3) and AFAIK with a much narrower bus width (64bit for system memory and usually 192-256bit for proper videocards).

For example, I have an HD4870 at home which is what? 7 or 8 years old. According to various online charts it should be about 2 times faster than modern integrated GPUs.
Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-04-10 13:45:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
Because of what you said I checked again. It has 4 GB memory integrated in the APU/GPU in addition to it's 8 GB RAM.

As you can probably tell, I'm not partucularly knowledgeable about computers. Shouldn't an additional PU with 4 GB of memory help increase performance?

I'm asking because I want to find out if it's a hardware or software problem. Or if I am the problem.
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#24 - 2015-04-10 14:56:56 UTC
Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain wrote:
Because of what you said I checked again. It has 4 GB memory integrated in the APU/GPU in addition to it's 8 GB RAM.

As you can probably tell, I'm not partucularly knowledgeable about computers. Shouldn't an additional PU with 4 GB of memory help increase performance?

I'm asking because I want to find out if it's a hardware or software problem. Or if I am the problem.


You can't have memory integrated into an APU. APU looks like a normal CPU. It physically has no space for a dedicated memory.

What's your full specs?
Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-04-10 15:02:46 UTC
AMD Phenom Quad-Core 4 GHz
RAM 8 GB DDR3 SDRAM
AMD Radeon HD 8570D, 4096 MB HyperMemory, DirectX® 11, VGA, HDMI

I've tried following the instructions here. Which resulted in the client not worling at all.
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#26 - 2015-04-10 16:26:25 UTC
Ugggh. Something is wrong with those specs.
HD8570D is an integrated video in, I believe, AMD Kaveri APU line. They aren't called Phenom as far as I know. The phenom line were CPUs without integrated GPUs and have been discontinued since dunnowhen (now they have FX series instead).

And yes, HyperMemory is a fancy way to say your video memory is a lie.
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