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marVLs
#21 - 2015-04-10 13:06:57 UTC
Well im on his side, just look at this from other perspective:
You'r new and You just want to use one of the (as name saying "trade") main game tools. There's no info about that such a scams can have place (i mean no info about mechanic of that tool, not even anything about scams in game advertising hehe). What other game have something like this? (nope it's not what it makes it good).
It's like You would buy for $ some weapon skin in FPS, and when You aplly to it some stuff like scope the skin disappeared forever, and there was no info about it in game itself. Won't be surprise if thing like this could get under consumer law for compensation.
Overall i think no matter what if EVE want to exist more than few years the scam system in eve will dasappear some day or there will be clear info about it. Everything changes
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#22 - 2015-04-10 13:14:05 UTC
DarkFuture wrote:
was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...


i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.

prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time

what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy..
Would you ask a random stranger on the street to cash your paycheck?

Because that's what you just did in Jita.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#23 - 2015-04-10 13:15:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Tuttomenui II wrote:
Does anyone else here ever find themselves fighting the urge to treat people on Facebook the way they treat their fellow capsuleers?
I deleted my Farcebook account after a year of inane rubbish.
DarkFuture wrote:
what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy..
"I know what I will do! Jump on the forums with a target painted on myself. I should get the sympathy that I deserve there! Right?"

My first inclination is that this thread is a scam for sympathy ISK.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#24 - 2015-04-10 13:25:46 UTC
I'm sorry to hear that OP

Send me your remaining ISK and I will double it for you.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#25 - 2015-04-10 13:31:32 UTC
Oh look, the circle of fail continues because CCP doesn't simply expectation-level with new players.

How tantalizing to now wonder if this player quits, or if CCP implements a hisec mechanics fix to the trade window perhaps, to now respond to this travesty...

sigh.

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VaL Iscariot
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2015-04-10 13:46:55 UTC
Darwin strikes again
Bagatur I
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-04-10 14:07:33 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
DarkFuture wrote:
was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...


i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.

prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time

what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy..
Would you ask a random stranger on the street to cash your paycheck?

Because that's what you just did in Jita.


cash your paycheck? little kiddies like you shouldnt talk, because you obviously never had paycheck. nobody can cash it except yourself, so nobody can take your money.
even if it was possible, the situation is not even close to trade window scam. trade window scam is like you selling something on a real-life market, a guy comes to buy, shows that he has the money, you hand over the goods and he hands you the money, but he manages to hide the majority of it in his sleeve or something. and before you notice it, he has the goods and disappears. only in real life he doesnt disappear, he is there to either give you the rest of the money, the goods back or get the crap beat out of him. trade window scam has no analogy in real life.
but dont let that make climb off of your high horse since you either were a trade window scam victim or read about it in the forums, like I did.
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2015-04-10 14:12:00 UTC
DarkFuture wrote:
was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...


i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.

prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time

what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy..


Were not laughing at you because we think youre the bad guy. Were laughing at you because you were an idiot. Theres a reason why the Jester is called "The Fool".

And if you were going to use that plex for renewing your subscription, why did you trade it away to begin with? That doesnt make sense, and makes me wonder if youre just trying to draw up sympathy so that people will gift you plex or free isk.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#29 - 2015-04-10 14:24:42 UTC
Yarda Black wrote:
AFAIK you can sell PLEX like items these days. So you can just put them on market.


You always could. That's the point of them.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#30 - 2015-04-10 14:30:53 UTC
DarkFuture wrote:
was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...


i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.

prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time

what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy..


People think ignorance or weakness is at the heart of most people susceptibility to scamming (not just in game, it real life).

In reality, the thing that makes people susceptible to scamming is GREED.

So many people have been parted from their money (real and isk) because they tried to make 'a ton of money'. You could have very simply right clicked on your p-lex and sold it to sell orders in Jita. Not as much as the scammer seemed to be offering, but had you don't that you would not now be here posting about it.
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#31 - 2015-04-10 14:38:43 UTC
Don't take it so hard, DarkFuture.

When I was new, I was trying to get creative with making ISK, so put my younger sister up on contract as a sex slave. Someone offered me a trade window deal, and I took it. Was totally ripped off. Haven't seen my sister since 2008, and I only got 400 million for her. I could've had, like, a hundred times that much if I'd been more patient.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon

Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-04-10 14:46:10 UTC
What a stupid thing to do RollShockedRollShocked

Also OP never do any of these things...

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#33 - 2015-04-10 15:10:57 UTC
Celise Katelo wrote:
What a stupid thing to do RollShockedRollShocked
Also OP never do any of these things...
Well that is a depressing reminder to start the weekend.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#34 - 2015-04-10 15:16:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Bagatur I wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
DarkFuture wrote:
was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...


i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.

prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time

what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy..
Would you ask a random stranger on the street to cash your paycheck?

Because that's what you just did in Jita.


cash your paycheck? little kiddies like you shouldnt talk, because you obviously never had paycheck. nobody can cash it except yourself, so nobody can take your money.
Firstly, I'm not a kiddy. Secondly, I've been earning paychecks for nearly 30 years. Thirdly, If I wasn't paid directly into my bank account I could take a paycheck into various places that aren't banks and exchange it for cash, for a percentage.

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even if it was possible, the situation is not even close to trade window scam. trade window scam is like you selling something on a real-life market, a guy comes to buy, shows that he has the money, you hand over the goods and he hands you the money, but he manages to hide the majority of it in his sleeve or something. and before you notice it, he has the goods and disappears. only in real life he doesnt disappear, he is there to either give you the rest of the money, the goods back or get the crap beat out of him. trade window scam has no analogy in real life.
In real life he's already got your stuff and a car waiting, if you do catch him and beat the crap out of him the police arrest you for assault. Get real. The analogy is apt btw.
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but dont let that make climb off of your high horse since you either were a trade window scam victim or read about it in the forums, like I did.
Your horse appears to be somewhat taller than mine, be careful how you get off it.

I haven't been a victim of the trade window scam because I don't do stupid crap with my stuff, rule #2 of Eve is "trust nobody, not even your alts".

Before you go off on one of these ignorant little rants you should consider the kind of game that Eve is, and the things that it allows.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#35 - 2015-04-10 16:02:10 UTC
Is this a scam to get donations?
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#36 - 2015-04-10 16:14:32 UTC
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
Is this a scam to get donations?


You look honest.

I don't trust you.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#37 - 2015-04-10 16:14:59 UTC
People don't bash you for being scammed.

They bash you because you bitched about it.

If you go "whoops, I got scammed" we'll take more of of a "oh well it happens". Admittedly, though, there are more experienced players that find it abusing an embarrassing that anyone could ever get scammed in the first place because they're all "so obvious" so expect some bash from those guys :3

Lesson though, don't use trade window unless you REALLY trust them.

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#38 - 2015-04-10 16:16:17 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#39 - 2015-04-10 16:17:30 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
People don't bash you for being scammed.

They bash you because you bitched about it.

If you go "whoops, I got scammed" we'll take more of of a "oh well it happens". Admittedly, though, there are more experienced players that find it abusing an embarrassing that anyone could ever get scammed in the first place because they're all "so obvious" so expect some bash from those guys :3

Lesson though, don't use trade window unless you REALLY trust them.

You could "trade" with me all day, handsome....... ;)
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Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#40 - 2015-04-10 16:35:58 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
People don't bash you for being scammed.

They bash you because you bitched about it.

If you go "whoops, I got scammed" we'll take more of of a "oh well it happens". Admittedly, though, there are more experienced players that find it abusing an embarrassing that anyone could ever get scammed in the first place because they're all "so obvious" so expect some bash from those guys :3

Lesson though, don't use trade window unless you REALLY trust them.

You could "trade" with me all day, handsome....... ;)


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