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Making money at low levels for newbies?

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Celeste Benal
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-04-09 16:11:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Celeste Benal
Payne Saissore wrote:
How do I get to the loyalty point store?

and this is making me way more interested and excited to play haha (ugh work in 2 hours nuuuuu!)


Every NPC station has one. Its part of the station services panel on the right. Above the tab-lists and below the station owner box is the station services panel. Hover over each one to learn what it is. (I think its the top left button amongst all those buttons.)

That button will show you what that NPC corporation has available in it's LP store.

edit: You may find this LP store database useful.
Lupe Meza
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2015-04-09 16:11:52 UTC
Payne Saissore wrote:
I am fairly new, only been playing a few weeks total. I was wondering what are some good ways to make isk at lower levels?

I have been mining for a week now in a venture and I was saving up for a better mining ship to hopefully fund exploring eve and maybe someday flying a battleship (right now I just have a single destroyer I think) but I looked at the prices of some of the mining ships and they are 20-30 million and I spent the last week making 14 million total... that's a bit discouraging. So I figured I would ask here?

I have hear missions can maybe be a good way of making money but so far the missions only give like 50k isk... how does anyone make money running missions?

I am also nervous to do mining because someone was telling me that mining ships are always targeted in high sec...

I am trying to get my spouse into eve also and it's sorta working but she wants to fly a big battleship lol and I was going to buy her one but holy crap it's hard to make money haha

any advice?


Mining is pretty bad at low levels and while some may enjoy the profession it may not quite be for you. I would recommend either working your way up to level 3 security missions in a decently skilled BC hull, exploration, joining a good newbie friendly FW corporation if you like PVP, or plain lowsec and nullsec ratting. Out of those only the missioning and ratting will give you a guaranteed return on your time investment as far as isk making is concerned.

Exploration is very luck based and your success in PVP will come down to individual and/or fleet skill. If you lose more than you make in PVP it becomes more of a sink than an income stream. You could always become a farmer though and just try to get as much isk as possible with as little risk as possible as well.

Crime and punishment might have some recommendations on shadier income streams.
Hendrick Kion
Slum Lords of Rage
Fraternity Auxiliary
#23 - 2015-04-09 16:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Hendrick Kion
Mining isn't the worst thing you can do as a noob.

I made plenty of ISK in my early days (first six months or so) by mining. It's a great way to make some ISK while you learn the game and start to decide where you want to be, what direction you want to take your skills, etc.

Some station trading probably wouldn't be a bad idea either, though I'd work on getting 100 mil or so bankroll b4 doing to much with that.

Both are easy, relatively low skill requirement opportunities.

Exploration is going to be crap until you have skills that allow you to start running sites in Low and Null.

Mission running is good monies... but it takes some time to both skill and grind standings to Level 4s. What worked for me was doing a quick 11 day or so skill train into a procurer and then just mine until my PVE ratting/ mission running skills were solid enough to go make ISK that way.

And I recommend a well tanked procurer, not a retriever. #dontbeeasygank
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#24 - 2015-04-09 16:16:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Eve Solecist wrote:

Alternatively... find a gate ganker,
settle down 200km from him and wait until he pops something.

Warp to the wreck, open, initiate warp-off, LOOT ALL, richness.


Flying thru low sec i encountered someone's cruiser wreck near the gate in the incursion system. There were sansha NPCs around but i looted 230 M ISK worth loot from the wreck. With a rookie frigate. Big smile

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Chuka Elarik
Doomheim
#25 - 2015-04-09 16:21:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Chuka Elarik
LP farm in FW. You don't need to know how to PVP but it will teach you the basics of using the D-Scan to avoid being destroyed. Just be aware that some players will blow you up if they think you're an LP farmer even if they are in your faction.

Fly a venture, unlikely that they'll be able to point on you.

I started running gas, relic and data sites in WH's on this character pretty quickly. It has its downsides but requires very little SP to get started and us a good introduction to learning how to survive outside high security. Just don't forget to bookmark the WH exit I had to suicide my pod after losing my ship to some sleepers. I didn't make that mistake again.

I also just mine massive scordite in highsec when I can't be bothered paying attention to what is going on around me.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#26 - 2015-04-09 16:26:45 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Eve Solecist wrote:

Alternatively... find a gate ganker,
settle down 200km from him and wait until he pops something.

Warp to the wreck, open, initiate warp-off, LOOT ALL, richness.


Flying thru low sec i encountered someone's cruiser wreck near the gate in the incursion system. There were sansha NPCs around but i looted 230 M ISK worth loot from the wreck. With a rookie frigate. Big smile

Lucky, pale goddess....
... we should meet sometimes...... ;)
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Doji Okakura
#27 - 2015-04-09 16:27:17 UTC
Missions, then exploration once you have skilled up a bit.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#28 - 2015-04-09 16:28:49 UTC
Hendrick Kion wrote:
Mining isn't the worst thing you can do as a noob.

I made plenty of ISK in my early days (first six months or so) by mining. It's a great way to make some ISK while you learn the game and start to decide where you want to be, what direction you want to take your skills, etc.

Some station trading probably wouldn't be a bad idea either, though I'd work on getting 100 mil or so bankroll b4 doing to much with that.

Both are easy, relatively low skill requirement opportunities.

Exploration is going to be crap until you have skills that allow you to start running sites in Low and Null.

Mission running is good monies... but it takes some time to both skill and grind standings to Level 4s. What worked for me was doing a quick 11 day or so skill train into a procurer and then just mine until my PVE ratting/ mission running skills were solid enough to go make ISK that way.

And I recommend a well tanked procurer, not a retriever. #dontbeeasygank

Except that you don't learn much by mining,because you're mining.
Theory should be learned while being unable to play.

Practise > Theory.

It's literally the worst thing new players can do.
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#29 - 2015-04-09 16:33:02 UTC
Leannor wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
mining is the worst thing you can do in this game, try following the missions, security missions are ok and will provide you with ships and isk, or you could throw £10 and buy a plex that will give you 800mil to play with.

battelships i would forget about till you get some experience, that experience wont come from mining :)

missions pay well but you need the higher missions lvl'4 etc, unfortunately you have to go through lvl 1's etc first



that's your opinion. not everyone will share it.

Except that it's a fact anyone can realise just by thinking about it.

Mining is the worst thing a new player can do.
There is nothing to learn while mining,
there is no interaction involved,
it makes the least amount of ISK and fun/hr,
one gets easily tempted to do something else (so why even play?) and ...
... sheesh, that's enough already.
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Paranoid Loyd
#30 - 2015-04-09 16:35:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
When I started I realized mining was not good income but at the same time there is a lot of reading and research to be done when you start, better to chew rocks while reading and figuring out what the hell is going on instead of being docked. It's quite difficult to read and run missions or explore while it is not difficult to read and mine.

That being said being even partially AFK is a good way to get yourself blown up.

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Fix the Prospect!
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#31 - 2015-04-09 16:43:26 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
When I started I realized mining was not good income but at the same time there is a lot of reading and research to be done when you start, better to chew rocks while reading and figuring out what the hell is going on instead of being docked. It's quite difficult to read and run missions or explore while it is not difficult to read and mine.

That being said being even partially AFK is a good way to get yourself blown up.

Quoting this in hopes I can some day use it against you.

:p
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Paranoid Loyd
#32 - 2015-04-09 16:48:19 UTC
I look forward to the day you do as I am not sure how it would be possible.

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#33 - 2015-04-09 16:51:13 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
I look forward to the day you do as I am not sure how it would be possible.

Me too ...
... and me neither ...
... but who knows! :)
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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#34 - 2015-04-09 16:57:24 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
When I started I realized mining was not good income but at the same time there is a lot of reading and research to be done when you start, better to chew rocks while reading and figuring out what the hell is going on instead of being docked. It's quite difficult to read and run missions or explore while it is not difficult to read and mine.


I devoured much of the superlative EVE University wiki that way, while sitting in a Navitas next to a big rock and a jet can.

It might not be ~optimal~, but it served me well enough. The point at which I master a system is the point at which I lose interest in it.

Paranoid Loyd wrote:
That being said being even partially AFK is a good way to get yourself blown up.


Being in space is a good way to get yourself blown up. It's not so bad.

Besides, I was often in belts with baiters and gankers, and they didn't bother with the little newbie in the free little failfit ship, nibbling away at a distant rock. There were always more interesting targets.

Ventures seem to be a (mildly) more attractive target.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#35 - 2015-04-09 18:16:54 UTC
As someone who has mined everywhere and everything:

Go and do security missions (with the diplomacy skills)

At least they give you some combat skills as you progress.

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Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Whittorical Quandary
Amarrian Infinity
#36 - 2015-04-09 18:31:55 UTC
Higher level missions, and especially pi (planetary interaction) will get a good profit.

pi can be confusing to setup at first but once you get it up and running you don't have to manage a whole lot, and it's great as a supplemental income, to say the least.

Start off with a tutorial:

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/NPTS_-_Planetary_Interaction

(you can google for other tutorials on pi as well)

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Zephraim Cockring
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-04-09 20:47:26 UTC
Ninja loot. Scan down lev 4 mission runners, nab loot and salvage. Fast, fun, profitable. google is your friend, you can find tons of fits and tips. as a bonus, if the missioner shoots at you you've got a good chance of taking them out, if you play your cards right. this playstyle is super fun, has a low bar for entry, and is pure profit without having to invest in expensive ships, grinding for loyalty or shooting rocks.

see here

http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#38 - 2015-04-09 21:00:12 UTC
Zephraim Cockring wrote:
Ninja loot. Scan down lev 4 mission runners, nab loot and salvage. Fast, fun, profitable. google is your friend, you can find tons of fits and tips. as a bonus, if the missioner shoots at you you've got a good chance of taking them out, if you play your cards right. this playstyle is super fun, has a low bar for entry, and is pure profit without having to invest in expensive ships, grinding for loyalty or shooting rocks.

see here

http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html

Wow, how they let you getvaway with that name .........

Got nothing against it... seriously... just a bit baffled.
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Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#39 - 2015-04-09 21:29:59 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
Zephraim Cockring wrote:
Ninja loot. Scan down lev 4 mission runners, nab loot and salvage. Fast, fun, profitable. google is your friend, you can find tons of fits and tips. as a bonus, if the missioner shoots at you you've got a good chance of taking them out, if you play your cards right. this playstyle is super fun, has a low bar for entry, and is pure profit without having to invest in expensive ships, grinding for loyalty or shooting rocks.

see here

http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html

Wow, how they let you getvaway with that name .........

Got nothing against it... seriously... just a bit baffled.

Because, most names are only removed on report.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#40 - 2015-04-09 21:34:53 UTC
That's true. I forgot.
It's the reason why AC "lost" his name after seven years.

Haters.
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