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Making money at low levels for newbies?

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Payne Saissore
Xenon Nym
#1 - 2015-04-09 15:17:28 UTC
I am fairly new, only been playing a few weeks total. I was wondering what are some good ways to make isk at lower levels?

I have been mining for a week now in a venture and I was saving up for a better mining ship to hopefully fund exploring eve and maybe someday flying a battleship (right now I just have a single destroyer I think) but I looked at the prices of some of the mining ships and they are 20-30 million and I spent the last week making 14 million total... that's a bit discouraging. So I figured I would ask here?

I have hear missions can maybe be a good way of making money but so far the missions only give like 50k isk... how does anyone make money running missions?

I am also nervous to do mining because someone was telling me that mining ships are always targeted in high sec...

I am trying to get my spouse into eve also and it's sorta working but she wants to fly a big battleship lol and I was going to buy her one but holy crap it's hard to make money haha

any advice?
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-04-09 15:20:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
mining is the worst thing you can do in this game, try following the missions, security missions are ok and will provide you with ships and isk, or you could throw £10 and buy a plex that will give you 800mil to play with.

battelships i would forget about till you get some experience, that experience wont come from mining :)

missions pay well but you need the higher missions lvl'4 etc, unfortunately you have to go through lvl 1's etc first

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2015-04-09 15:23:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Exploring is a good place to start.

If you continue to mine, just use a procurer and you should be ok, the yield will be lower but you are less likely to be ganked.

This should give you some other ideas.

I recommend considering faction warfare as well, you can make pretty good isk and get your feet wet in PVP.

Don't worry about losing ships, it's part of the game.

Post questions you have here instead of GD, it gets a little crazy in here sometimes.

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Fix the Prospect!

Samsara Toldya
Academy of Contradictory Behaviour
#4 - 2015-04-09 15:25:31 UTC
Find something you enjoy doing, enjoy spending your time in EVE. ISK will come and go but you'll go and never come back if you are only grinding for ISK without having fun.

You can always spend 20$ for a PLEX and sell it for 800M ISK, that should be more then enough ISK to find your way without putting yourself into pressure.

A rookie friendly corporation can be a great help, too.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#5 - 2015-04-09 15:25:35 UTC
Work for people.

For example... hire up as a scout to find targets to gank.
Scoop the loot for the ganker.


Alternatively... find a gate ganker,
settle down 200km from him and wait until he pops something.

Warp to the wreck, open, initiate warp-off, LOOT ALL, richness.


Way better than mining or running missions,
in literally every single way.
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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-04-09 15:26:20 UTC
faction warfare is great fun too :) i guess it depends what you really want to do in the game, do you want to be a miner or do you want to shoot other people?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2015-04-09 15:26:21 UTC
Payne Saissore
Xenon Nym
#8 - 2015-04-09 15:31:14 UTC
Is there anyway I can move my post to that category?

and I was thinking of doing a plex but I have to convince the wifey lol she has a tough enough time with paying 15 a month on a subscription lol

so security missions would maybe be the best?
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#9 - 2015-04-09 15:33:26 UTC
Payne Saissore wrote:
Is there anyway I can move my post to that category?

and I was thinking of doing a plex but I have to convince the wifey lol she has a tough enough time with paying 15 a month on a subscription lol

so security missions would maybe be the best?

Is it your money or hers?
Who goes to work?

Click the flag, ask nicely to have your post moved to the new players QA
and greet them from me please. Just add "Sol said Hi!" :)
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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-04-09 15:33:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Payne Saissore wrote:
Is there anyway I can move my post to that category?

and I was thinking of doing a plex but I have to convince the wifey lol she has a tough enough time with paying 15 a month on a subscription lol

so security missions would maybe be the best?


yeah i would say so to get you some basic ship flying experience then move to faction warfare (if your interested in pvp)

bit more exciting than orbiting an asteroid

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Payne Saissore
Xenon Nym
#11 - 2015-04-09 15:36:22 UTC
We both work a ton lol but she does all our accounting (she is going to school for that)

and could you explain faction wars? how is it different from normal pvp and like null sec fighting?
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-04-09 15:40:40 UTC
Payne Saissore wrote:
We both work a ton lol but she does all our accounting (she is going to school for that)

and could you explain faction wars? how is it different from normal pvp and like null sec fighting?


faction warfare is a bit like domination in call of duty, capture the points to eventually takeover a part of space, they fly mostly t1 cheap frigs, you still have a limited amount of protection in faction warfare from gateguns etc, nullsec you dont and nullsec has really big ships bigger than battleships

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#13 - 2015-04-09 15:44:39 UTC
Payne Saissore wrote:
We both work a ton lol but she does all our accounting (she is going to school for that)

and could you explain faction wars? how is it different from normal pvp and like null sec fighting?

There is no "normal".
PvP is PvP.
Combat is combat.
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Payne Saissore
Xenon Nym
#14 - 2015-04-09 15:46:54 UTC
what are buy orders? I was reading something that said to try and get those?
2Sonas1Cup
#15 - 2015-04-09 15:48:55 UTC
Unfortunately you either need game mechanics skills which you obviously don't have since you are new, or time and patience to grind while learning by yourself.

Said so no matter what anyone will tell you there isn't any holy grail for new players.

The only thing you can do other than grinding missions or mining which use very basic mechanics and anyone can do it, is join a noob friendly corp with people willing to teach you more advanced game mechanics which you can use to make more money in different areas of the game.
Celeste Benal
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-04-09 15:49:06 UTC
It is true you can make good money running missions. But you need to grind standings with an NPC corp so you can get level 4 mission agents available. The pay and LP are much better.

Loyalty Points (LP) is where the money is at for missions. Finish mission, get LP. Buy stuff in the Loyalty store. Sell stuff on the market for isk. Learning Implants and faction ammo are always in demand. (No guarantee they are a good LP-to-isk conversion though.)

What you do in Eve really depends on your mindset, what you wish to achieve, and how much time you have. I assure you that no matter what you want to do in Eve, there are other players somewhere with similar wants and requirements. You've taken the correct first step simply by asking around.

I cannot recommend strongly enough that you join a player corporation. Associate with other players and have fun. Eve is so much better when played with friends. If you are so inclined, you and your wife can even form your own corporation and recruit others. Just be careful about giving out hanger access roles to strangers. Theft is allowed in this game.

For new players, salvaging is actually pretty good isk and can be done easily enough in a tech 1 destroyer. But that depends on someone making wrecks for you to salvage. Security missions are good for making wrecks. One of you can do the pew-pew while the other hoovers up wrecks in a salvage destroyer. There is even a specialty salvage ship, the Noctis.

You also mentioned exploration. Exploration requires relatively little SP or isk investment and can bring in good isk as well. But it tends to be hit or miss depending on what sites you find.

You mentioned you can mine in a Venture. If you are willing to accept more risk, you can train Gas Mining and some scanning skills, find a wormhole, and take quick trips inside to mine Fullerene gas clouds. 15 minutes sucking on one of those will give even a new player with minimum skills several million isk in gas. Even if you lose your ship once ever ten trips, you will easily pay for everything many times over.

Fair warning, w-space is similar to nulsec in that there are no rules. Everything goes. Local chat is on delayed mode as well, meaning no one will show up unless they start chatting in local.

You can be a ship builder, a miner, an explorer, a market tycoon, a scientist, a leader, pretty much anything you can imagine.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-04-09 15:52:54 UTC  |  Edited by: SKINE DMZ
I started with mining, it was pretty boring but it made me my first 100m and it wasn't that bad as I was reading more stuff than actually playing. Then I moved a little bit over to missioning, made some small ISK but wasn't too enjoyable for me.

Then I decided to go daytripping with my missioning Drake in c1/c2 wormholes. Made some ISK(considerably more than mining/missioning), exploded couple of times, good fun.

Nowadays I don't do much for ISK, frigates are pretty cheap. FW is fun, and I would probably join that for both fun and money if I had to start over again.

PS: battleships may look cool but what do you want to use it for? They are extremely slow and pretty expensive, good if you want to continue missioning probably.

I disagree

Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-04-09 15:57:12 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
mining is the worst thing you can do in this game, try following the missions, security missions are ok and will provide you with ships and isk, or you could throw £10 and buy a plex that will give you 800mil to play with.

battelships i would forget about till you get some experience, that experience wont come from mining :)

missions pay well but you need the higher missions lvl'4 etc, unfortunately you have to go through lvl 1's etc first



that's your opinion. not everyone will share it.

However, OP should be aware that there are things that can be done in the game that are very different, more risky, more rewarding, and more requiring of attention and skill in varying levels (ingame and out of game).

Don't be tempted to throw cash at the game though. that's a slippery rd, especially at this point. Earn your money, know how to get it without throwing cash at the game, and you'll not only feel good when you've got it, you'll want to keep it more, which will raise the stakes when you go into combat. The adrenaline rush of battle when you appreciate how much something is worth 'to you' is great in this game.

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"

Celeste Benal
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-04-09 15:59:05 UTC
If you are more industrial-minded, you can also try Planetary Interaction (PI for short). Its mostly easy passive income. All you need is a tech 1 industrial ship and some easy-to-train skills.

The link above is to Eve University's wiki. Its a great resource for new players. You may want to consider joining them.
Payne Saissore
Xenon Nym
#20 - 2015-04-09 16:00:44 UTC
How do I get to the loyalty point store?

and this is making me way more interested and excited to play haha (ugh work in 2 hours nuuuuu!)
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