Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This same 'fix' has come up many times before. I still don't see the actual problem with a Frigate tackling larger ships. If you could explain WHY you see it as a problem it may go some way to mitigate some of the flame storm that is inbound on this thread.

larger ships are meant to be vulnerable to smaller ones that is one of the best balancing points in eve.



larger ships need smaller ships to both defend them and help them to apply their full damage

so if you want the large tank and DPS of a large ship to be effective you need to build a fleet around it

I'll just leave this here, this was a tough one to find, search tool is being difficult today:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5526590#post5526590

Make it so frigates can't tackle larger ships? Seriously? Do you realize that tackle frigates are about the only way for new players to get in on pvp fleets? Think of the newbies, man, think of the newbies.

And the larger the mass of the ship, the more precise, and more easily disrupted, those measurements need to be...

Is this why the largest ship in the game can't be disrupted? Because the calculation required is so precise a disruptor can't hope to mess that up?

Hand-waved away with redundancy. Supers are so big that they have thousands more delicate sensors than needed.

Supers have about a 100 hidden Warp Core Stabilizer IIs fitted. This explains why they have such horrible scan resolution.

I wouldn't mind if warp disruptors had half a dozen points of warp disruption at their optimal, and falloff effects beyond that. Ships could gain warp core integrity based on their size or specialization. Non-combat ships might have extra insulated cores beyond their typical weight class.

This would make it easier to warp disrupt a small ship at range, but require that people be closer to apply more warp disruption strength against a hardier target. That might invert the dynamic of heavy ships having poor mobility. Of course, the real complaint about battleship mobility is that their warp ball is small enough to counter with stealth bomber bombs, and because their agility is low.

Alternately, ships could have warp core integrity (hp). Initiating a warp would drain this reservoir instead of capacitor. Even if you couldn't warp disrupt it on the first pass, repeated exposure or encounters would wear it down over time. Warp core stabilizers would either increase the size of the reservoir, increase the regeneration rate, or apply a hardener effect to core destabilization.

The latter would make a nice new target for the warping skillbook, especially on ships with tiny capacitors, but the real downside is another set of continuous calculations for the server to perform, rather than a single data table. Lack of regen would aid in this regard, but that would require manual replacement or injectors. Perhaps making WCS single-use in this regard could prove interesting.

It could also serve as the basis of a tax for npc stations and gates restocking warp core integrity. Otherwise, extended missions in lawless space would require a source of external support. There is also the issue of what to do about ships that are stuck in space. Perhaps a regen system with a very long, slow tick rate would be a better compromise, or allow pods to warp without core integrity. Alternately, ships without integrity reserves could warp at the slowest possible warp rate and need to reach 99% of max velocity to warp.