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Angel Null Data & Relic

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Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-04-01 09:20:01 UTC
Hi,

I've started to explore again in null after a long time spent in WH and HS activity. From now I've done 4 angel sites (3 Relic and 1 Data) to gather the ridiculous amount of 10,2M ISK plus a few cheap BPC.

I've heard that CCP nerfed it but did they that much ? Or am I really unlucky today ?
Nick The HITMAN
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2015-04-01 09:23:56 UTC
It was same for me, maybe a month ago.
Did like 15 sites, couple a day and the income was bad :(
7-12 mil on site. But as you said, maybe i was unlucky.
Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-04-01 10:08:37 UTC
4 more sites, one of them was worth 15 mil, and I get 5 mil from the other 3. Moving my ass to hostile space and face merciless bubblers isn't worth anymore :(
Talia Valta
ValtaTeleVisuals
#4 - 2015-04-01 11:21:33 UTC
Were there any cans already done when you arrived in the sites?

What sec level are the systems you scanning in?

I've never done Angel sites before but I managed to make over 100 Million ISK in roughly 8 sites, three of which were data sites.

Another possible reason is that there are lots of players scanning before you and getting the good sites and your left with the not so good ones.

Is the area your in a highly populated one?
Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-04-01 12:11:39 UTC
I was scanning in nullsec, in and around Gorgon Space. Eventually I collected 92M ISK, with 17 sites (data and relic, more relic than data).

I probed sites down with between 0.5 and 2 AU range on my probes (I got Astrometrics V, other scan skills to IV and Covert Ops to IV) with an Helios and a fitted scanning upgrades. I remember a lot of Angel Temples and Angel Scientific Outpost (or something like that).

Last time I probed for Data & Relic was roughly 18 months ago, with an Imicus, and 150M was the usual payout for 2 - 3 hours and less than 10 sites.
Orlacc
#6 - 2015-04-01 19:44:09 UTC
Angels have the worst loot.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#7 - 2015-04-01 19:55:12 UTC
Combat Sites get you better rewards.
Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-04-02 14:56:50 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Angels have the worst loot.


I used to farm on Guristas space. That's maybe the point.

Estella Osoka wrote:
Combat Sites get you better rewards.


My combat pilot doens't have probing skills. And I don't want to dual box.
Kane Carnifex
Duty.
Brave Collective
#9 - 2015-04-07 12:47:57 UTC
try diffrent races and also include WH space :)

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William Hazard
Literally The Worst Community
#10 - 2015-04-08 06:36:18 UTC
Sansha systeme and regulary i do 100m site (relic), with an average 15-20m a site.
Dominus Immortalus
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-04-08 18:54:08 UTC
Maybe I've just been very unlucky, but it really does seem like there was a serious reduction in isk at these sights. For the past many weeks my results have been very similar to the OP. This is in sansha space. I definitely haven't found any 100 mil sights.

I'm tempted to start going WHs, but I've been told the risk isn't worth it.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#12 - 2015-04-08 21:40:41 UTC
The reduction can be from a splurge in the market. A lot of new players do the relic/data sites, so you're going to have a lot more items from those sites in the market.

Remember when the pith a-type invuln fields were selling for almost 2bil? Now they are down to under 1bil.

Probing got easier, prices dropped.
Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-04-09 19:09:42 UTC
But I tried 2 sessions in Guristas space and it was way better. An average 30M / site. So I'm never ever going in Angel space :D
Denis Freeman
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-04-10 12:07:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Denis Freeman
Scanning in Curse and Scalding Pass (Gorgon Space) I have my 40-100ΠΊΠΊ per hour. Lately start thinking about Combat Sites as well mb this will incvrease the income.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#15 - 2015-04-11 11:20:00 UTC
I am an avid explorer and have been for years now even before the big changes to exploration. I remember scanning down sites with a problematic and clunky scanning system deep in Delve dodging PL back when they were real mercs and back then times were good. I will admit the scanning system has had some sorely need improvements implemented however I think some other aspects have paid the price for it. There has never in my 5 years of exploring been so much competition! Its unreal I tell you...going from system to system finding 'No Results' on my scanner and then to finally come to a system that I can scan down with a oversimplified system and find that it has been cherry picked to death. That accompanied with poor poor loot distribution has put the exploration profession in a chock hold that all explorers can quite frankly do with out.

So no my friend you are not losing your mind...you have fallen victim to a already low RNG loot table and an over populated profession that I fear is dying a slow and embarrassing death.


CCP...fix it.

Oderint Dum Metuant

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-04-11 11:40:28 UTC
Angel loot sucks indeed.