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Antikythera Elements and Drifter Battleships

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Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-04-07 03:20:21 UTC
I don't know why this hasn't been discussed before - although, if it has, my apologies for creating a new thread regarding it.

There's been a lot of theories that the Antikythera Elements are part of the Jovian Observatories but I'm beginning to hypothesize that maybe that isn't the case. The Antikythera Elements only started popping up alongside the Drifter Battleships - after they began dismantling the Observatories which decloaked at the same time. So, it's a natural assumption.

Although - consider for a moment that perhaps this isn't the case. Let's assume for the moment that the Seekers aren't just around for scanning, fighting, and dismantling Observatories... Let's assume for a moment that they're also capable of manufacture. Let's assume for a moment that the pieces they are harvesting are reprocessed and then manufactured into something usable - The Antikythera Elements.

A potential theory there is that the Elements are not inherently part of the Observatory, but perhaps part of the Drifter ships themselves prior to installation, and brought through the wormhole for final construction.

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama

Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#2 - 2015-04-07 04:33:57 UTC
So they're repairing the stations?

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2015-04-07 05:56:54 UTC
ah ... I'm sorry if this is common knowledge to most, but ...

What is "kythera"?
Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-04-07 07:22:21 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
So they're repairing the stations?


Hardly, they're stripping them for parts to build more Drifter vessels.

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama

Feu dAstres
Nox Draconum Holding Corp
#5 - 2015-04-07 10:38:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Feu dAstres
I believe the old observatories are failing ... and the destruction we see is a sign of that.

The Seekers and Drifters are merely stripping parts that are difficult to replicate for uses elsewhere.

Hopefully our own gathering of quantities of these pieces will allow us, eventually, to assemble the parts in the proper configuration(s) for functioning device(s).
Iakim Akrelthor
Skipper Logistics
#6 - 2015-04-07 12:37:40 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
ah ... I'm sorry if this is common knowledge to most, but ...

What is "kythera"?


((Antikithera is an island in the Mediterranean. In nearby waters a shipwreck was found, dated somewhere around I and II century BC. Among the wreckage, a remarkable device was found.

An analog computer (cogs and wheels) that not only worked as a calendar for multiple time cycles, but also showed the moon phases.

The fragments are in bad shape, but some theorize it also told about the position of the planets.

They seem to be similar to the Sleeper Cartesian Temporal Coordinators in that regard))
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#7 - 2015-04-08 00:48:19 UTC
Interestingly, the Scope's view is that the Drifters are dismantling the observatories.

While it's possible that we've all got it wrong, I'd tend to go with the dominant theory that the Vigilant Tyrannos are gathering the Antikythera Elements for purposes as-yet unknown.

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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#8 - 2015-04-08 08:19:02 UTC
We don't even know antikythera is the raw material they are gathering.

It could be they have some sort of processing facility onboard that is converting whatever they are gathering into it as they gather it.


Also, do we actually know if the amount of antikythera is going up after they harvest from a structure, or is it just something in the ship that everyone is assuming came from their salvage ops. If it's not what's being gathered it could be a component of the ship itself (it could also, potentially be both if they are harvesting from structures to build and upgrade more ships)
Feu dAstres
Nox Draconum Holding Corp
#9 - 2015-04-08 10:34:36 UTC
Salvage of Circadian Seeker wrecks provided only occasional scrap metal before they started working on the damaged observatories.

Since the observatories were damaged and the Seekers started using two different beams on them, we started recovering these Antikythera Elements from Seeker wrecks.

Therefore, I will assume the Antikythera Elements are a result of Seeker interaction with the damaged observatories.
Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-04-08 10:58:52 UTC
Feu dAstres wrote:
Salvage of Circadian Seeker wrecks provided only occasional scrap metal before they started working on the damaged observatories.

Since the observatories were damaged and the Seekers started using two different beams on them, we started recovering these Antikythera Elements from Seeker wrecks.

Therefore, I will assume the Antikythera Elements are a result of Seeker interaction with the damaged observatories.


Sure. Drifters didn't show up until those events started either, mind you.

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#11 - 2015-04-08 12:49:06 UTC
Nomistrav wrote:
Feu dAstres wrote:
Salvage of Circadian Seeker wrecks provided only occasional scrap metal before they started working on the damaged observatories.

Since the observatories were damaged and the Seekers started using two different beams on them, we started recovering these Antikythera Elements from Seeker wrecks.

Therefore, I will assume the Antikythera Elements are a result of Seeker interaction with the damaged observatories.


Sure. Drifters didn't show up until those events started either, mind you.

Until what events exactly? Battleships were crusing between unID Wormholes and Pillars with their drones (Seekers) before they started to dismantle the Pillars.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-04-08 16:20:37 UTC
Does it mean the Jove were finally defeated? Yey?

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#13 - 2015-04-08 16:28:29 UTC
Ms. Hanaya, I'm not sure the idea of a war between the Sleepers and the Sansha that happens to result in a hundred stars exploding is the sort of situation that would make me go, "yay."

If there's in fact a war on in space outside of ours, then I'd worry that we'll face a stronger foe if one should emerge victorious before we're able to develop enough power to contend, ourselves.

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Demion Samenel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
#14 - 2015-04-08 18:28:19 UTC
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gathering the Antikythera Elements for purposes as-yet unknown


There is much we dont know, as many other have noticed and still is uncertain about the Jove structure is being used somewhere else as its transported via created wormholes.

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If there's in fact a war on in space outside of ours, then I'd worry that we'll face a stronger foe if one should emerge victorious before we're able to develop enough power to contend, ourselves


Any tactical observation is important at this point any data is of value, and I have a growing feeling that this might just be a growing concern for more than just mear a few systems and I think many will foolishly engage them head on with out concern of others.

Confirmation on these activity would be of value to many, capsuleer and empires alike, but the strength of one of these ships is remarkable and I wouldn't not guess what a fleet of these can do.

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Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2015-04-09 14:52:45 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Ms. Hanaya, I'm not sure the idea of a war between the Sleepers and the Sansha that happens to result in a hundred stars exploding is the sort of situation that would make me go, "yay."

If there's in fact a war on in space outside of ours, then I'd worry that we'll face a stronger foe if one should emerge victorious before we're able to develop enough power to contend, ourselves.

I don't know what happened outside, was there a war, who was fighting and who destroyed these worlds, but I know one thing for sure, whatever happens is His Will. All that we can do now is to be just and righteous.

Jove have rejected His Light, and where are they now?

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Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#16 - 2015-04-09 15:28:34 UTC
I question your understanding of causation.

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