EVE General Discussion

I've been reading recruitment threads recently, and of course many of them mention security checks, which makes sense in a game full of spies and betrayals. But today I thought about it a bit and realized I have no idea what the checkers are looking before, beyond the obvious "Did he work for the enemy."

Are there things I (and others) should avoid doing because they would make it harder to find a corp in the future?

Marech.

OP, I wouldn't try to tailor your gameplay to make you recruitable at some point in the future.

Just play how you want to play and when you come to applying for a Corp, there are Corps out there to match every playstyle. It's just a matter of finding the one that matches how you play, rather than being worried about your past being a barrier to recruitment (it'll be an asset if you apply to the right Corp).

As a recruiter myself who actively speaks to other recruiters regularly, in most cases, Corps say they conduct security checks, but in reality a large number of them do next to nothing.

Those that do conduct security checks have their own approach, so it is difficult to outline a single set of things they will look for. What they look for depends largely on what the Corp does to begin with.

If you mean chat conversations, yes they are not available as the logs are stored locally.

If you mean mail messages, no they can be read from a full API.

You can test this yourself, just create a new full API, put it into API Jacknife and click along the menu at the top (mail will show you the mail messages, which you can then read):

http://ridetheclown.com/eveapi/audit.php

When I was doing things like this, I would check mails, to see who you are talking to, pretty easy to hide though just delete your mails, but an empty mail box is also a big red sign if are up to nefarious deeds delete the mails that are incriminating rather than purging the entirety of it all.

Checking Assets is another good way to figure out somethings. People who have been playing for 1+ years who tend to have ALOT of things, tend to be mains. While alts have only a few ships and such.

Wallet history is another good way. See if anybody is send large amounts of isk to somebody else can show alt hood.

Also if some deletes their API after, it another sign they might be trying to hide something.


If you are not up to no good though. Then it's just a good idea to keep yourself open and honest.

The way you know if you can trust somebody is by trusting them.

With majority rule, the majority dictates the form things take. Since those who excel are always in the minority, their vision never prevails. Rather, you have the tyranny of the mediocre in a democracy. The progeny of democracy comprise this player base, so guess what...

There are those who are convinced they must "investigate" someone "to be sure." One thing these folks are for sure about is, they're not very bright and couldn't really tell you whom you can trust and whom you can't, so they pretend procedure (they can't really explain to you) takes out the "human" element. By "human" we're supposed to believe "prone to fail."

The way you find out who you can trust is by trusting them. If they prove themselves trustworthy, then they are. If not, then not. This "investigation" has more to do with the ignorance of those claiming to use it than it does with any player's behavior. I run spies. That's what I do. (Obviously, not on this toon.) Gaining trust is how it's done. Nothing appearing in any so-called "investigation" of any EVE data reveals anything useful, but as long as who I am duping is looking there, they aren't looking where they should be, so further....this way of thinking makes one vulnerable to spies who know their business.

Play your game the way you see fit. Don't bend to the truisms and "wisdom" of so-called veteran players. Realize, there are hundreds of very experienced management-level players who understand well how all of this is done. You may not look "trustworthy" to one of those idiots mentioned above, but if you play a good game, train well, and are honest, the ones who do know will know and that's all you really need.

Enjoy the game. Ignore ignorance.

Scipio and Dots hit it on the head. Unless you plan on making a permanent change to your playstyle that actually suits you, don't avoid doing anything just because random corp number 43259832475 might not approve of it.

I've always played this game exactly how I wanted to, and it just so happened that my desires lined up with a few decent corporations along the way. I don't hide anything, and I've never felt compelled to lie about anything to anyone.

Christ, I'd make a horrible spy.

It's more than just "Did he work for the enemy?" but much more. Did you ever contact the enemy? Are you fresh out of an NPC corp? Did you recently receive/send a large sum of money from/to an odd source? Have you ever fought allies? Do you change corps very often? Did you recently create contracts specifically for a suspicious person or an outright enemy? Have you ever been part of a corp known for spying/awoxing?

The list goes on a little futher, and a good recruiter will be checking for all of these things. Honestly though, if you aren't a spy or awoxer and don't intend to ever be one, then you shouldn't run into trouble. That said, the best recruiters are paranoid as hell and will suspect you until they no longer need to.

I wouldn't go that far. /whistle

Actually its not that hard.....and it really depends on how disposable that alt is hmmm? Hint: watch for the ones that keep having contact with those seemingly getting doomheimed, sold, or just plain inactve for eternity all the time.

Lots of interesting responses above. Thank you all!

One more question ... I came across one otherwise attractive looking corp that specifies they want a non-expiring API key. I believe this would give them ongoing access to my email. I don't plan any shenanigans, but this seemed a bit creepy.

Is this a commonly accepted practice?

Marech.